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Is the Secret Rapture Wrong?

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Many Christians trust they will be raptured to heaven during a coming time of crisis. But what does scripture really teach?


[Steve Myers] Doctrine must come from the Word of God, not by man’s word. So what does God’s Word say when it comes to the secret Rapture?

Many Christians believe that in the near future they’ll be going about their daily business of working, shopping, at school, or even driving and then they will suddenly disappear! Gone—raptured away to heaven.

But is this what your Bible teaches?

On Beyond Today, we’ll explore the truth of the rapture theory by examining what Scripture really says regarding what will happen at the end of the age and the return of Christ. So stay with me as we discuss: “Is the Secret Rapture Wrong?”

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[Steve] Many Christians think that people around the world will be shocked by the strange and sudden disappearance of fathers, mothers, and even children. Planes will crash because pilots will vanish. Driverless cars will collide in the streets. Only clothing, sinners and even unworthy loved ones will be left behind.

Now have you asked yourself: Is this really what the Bible teaches? Is the idea of a secret rapture wrong?

Now, I'm not referring to the resurrection, because the Bible clearly speaks that a resurrection will take place. I’m talking about the idea that many churches teach as “the secret Rapture.” Now we’ll see on this program that these are two very different concepts. One is biblical, the other is not.

Now you know that books, and movies and many preachers even teach the notion that somehow Jesus will secretly snatch believers away to heaven for safety.

Now I hope you’ll think about that for a moment. Are you comfortable just accepting a belief because it’s popular or just because someone you may like promotes that idea? Don’t get your knowledge and understanding of the truth secondhand. Authentic Christians should never allow a movie, or a novel or a video define their beliefs.

God’s loyal people—they always take personal responsibility to look into a teaching and prove the truth! So be sure to go beyond entertainment and take a careful look with the right starting point, in fact the only true starting point—that’s the Holy Word of God.

So let’s see if the secret rapture theory stands up to the scrutiny of the Bible.

Many are pretty sure that the idea of the rapture must be recorded in the book of Revelation. But, if you check it out for yourself, you’ll find the truth is—there is no mention of a secret rapture anywhere in the book of Revelation.

So, as we begin, let’s define this idea. Now this belief includes the concept that Jesus won’t actually return to the earth—but will secretly come near, and take true believers, and transport them to safety in heaven.

Now during this time the raptured people will wait out the terrible trouble and tribulation that will be happening on the earth. The only evidence that the Rapture has actually happened is that Christians are suddenly gone. Supposedly they’ll be taken secretly, snatched up from the earth years before Jesus actually returns.

So, let’s see if the Bible validates the tenants of the rapture.

Does Scripture really teach that Jesus will secretly come and take Christians away to heaven?

Now we can learn something from the way Jesus returned to heaven after His crucifixion and resurrection. Now at that time, the disciples watched as He rose into the sky, “While they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men [now these were angels] they stood by them in white apparel, who also said, ‘Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven’” (Acts 1:9-11, NKJV).

Notice two important facts in these verses. First, the Jesus who will return to Earth, that one who comes a second time—He’s the very same Christ who lived here on Earth and who went back to heaven after His resurrection. The second fact is that He will return to Earth the same way—“in like manner”—as He went back to heaven. So, how did Jesus go to heaven after His resurrection? Was it a secret? No. The disciples watched Him literally rise into the air until a cloud hid Him from their sight. So these verses tell us plainly that Jesus will return to earth the same way—it will not be a secret.

Another Bible passage makes it absolutely clear that Jesus will not secretly return—in the book of Revelation. It says, “Behold, He is coming with clouds,”—now, that’s talking about Jesus—“and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him” (Revelation 1:7). You see, when Jesus comes every eye—everyone on earth—will see Him come. That certainly doesn’t sound like He’s coming secretly, does it?

The Bible also disproves this idea of a secret rapture with this statement directly from Jesus Christ in the book of Matthew: “For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be” (Matthew 24:27). Jesus’ second coming will be as visible as lightning that flashes during a storm. And we’ve seen those flashes—from one end of the sky to the other.

And so God’s Word makes it very clear that Jesus’ coming is anything but secret!

Now there’s a second idea that we must compare to the Bible and see if it is factual.

Is it true that believers will actually be taken away from the tribulation and distress to come, and only the wicked will be left on earth to suffer?

Now there’s no doubt, the Bible does foretell of a soon coming “time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time” (Daniel 12:1). That’s before Jesus’ return. But does that mean that Christians will be raptured and taken away from that tribulation?

Jesus Himself clearly tells us about this monumental event that will be like none other before it. He said, “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened” (Matthew 24:21-22).

Did you notice something important here? You’ve got to ask yourself, if the elect—if God’s people are secretly raptured before the great tribulation, why would they need the days shortened? You see, those ideas totally disagree with each other.

If you turn to the Word of God, you’ll find that all throughout the Bible, there are example after example of God’s people being saved in the middle of tribulation, not being saved out of it or before it. This includes Daniel in the lion’s den, Israel and the plagues of Egypt, and of course, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego in the fiery furnace.

God saved Daniel while he was going through that tribulation. The children of Israel, they were delivered from bondage after the plagues. And in that blistering furnace, God saved those three men miraculously.

Now these examples are important because right before Christ returns, true Christians will likewise be the target of the ungodly, because of their faithfulness. There will come a time of persecution and great tribulation, But there will not be a rapture, a removal of the faithful.

Now it is true, that just as in all of biblical history, God will preserve His elect. But did you notice how? The same Jesus that was with Daniel in the lion’s den, and with the children of Israel, and with the men in the fire, will not remove the faithful from every trial and tribulation. Instead, He will go with us through the trials. God will shield true believers who follow Him with all their heart and mind.

So it becomes obvious from Scripture that the idea of removing believers to heaven for protection, well that’s contrary to the teaching and example of the Word of God. It’s just not biblical.

But you may ask, isn’t there a place in the Bible where they base the teaching of the rapture? Well, yes. So let’s look at that one passage that forms the basis for the Rapture. Well that’s right, the main argument is based on just one scripture and it’s found in 1 Thessalonians 4:17.

Here’s what it says: “Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.”

This is from where the basis for the word rapture comes. When translated into Latin, the word used for "shall be caught up" is the Latin word “rapere”—that’s where we get our English word “rapture.” Now in Latin, the word means “to seize” or “to abduct” or to “snatch.”

Now the question is this: Does the original Greek word for “caught up” express the same sense of abduction or secret rapture? No, it doesn’t. Scholars say “[it] combines the ideas of force and suddenness seen in the irresistible power of God” (Leon Morris, Tyndale New Testament Commentaries, Revised Edition, 1984, p. 94). So rather than secretly whisked away, it refers to the sudden and forceful return of Jesus Christ.

Let’s dig into the context of this passage so we can gain an even better understanding.

Do you know why the apostle Paul wrote this section of Scripture? It was to answer the concerns of Christians in Thessalonica. They were grieving over the unexpected deaths of some of their faithful members. You see, they thought Jesus would return in their lifetime. They didn’t think that any faithful Christians would die before Jesus’ return. So they were caught unprepared for their death.

Now they weren’t worried about whether Christ would return to rescue them. They weren’t worried about their own safety in the end-of-the-age tribulation. And they weren’t neglecting their spiritual readiness.

Verse 13 shows this: “But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep [died], lest you sorrow as others who have no hope” (1 Thessalonians 4:13).

You see, the topic is clearly those Christians who were asleep, who had died. God is going to bring the dead back to life in a resurrection. Notice it: “For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus” (1 Thessalonians 4:14).

Now did you see the time reference? It says: “God will bring with Him.” That is, they’ll come with at the second coming of Christ. Could he have meant a secret rapture? No, it could only be referring to Jesus’ second coming to earth and the resurrected faithful will be with Him.

Now that’s why they could have hope! All Christians, living and dead are included those verses: “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord” (1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17).

So it’s no secret: The return of Christ is heralded by the seventh trumpet and a shout. True Christians both dead and alive will meet the returning Christ in the atmosphere of the earth, not in the heaven of God’s throne (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The Bible doesn’t call this a rapture—the Word of God calls this the first resurrection.

Paul used strong words so that people would be reassured that, at Jesus’ return, God would reunite believers who were still alive with believers who had died. The dead Christians won’t be left behind in any way!

Now there is another critical factor to consider about this verse. Recognizing the meaning of the word “meet.” It’s a very important word. One biblical scholar says, “the special idea of the word was the official welcome of a newly arrived dignitary” (Moulton, Greek Test. Gram., Vol. I, p. 14 ; and 1985, "Meet"). Another commentary says that this word “meet” refers to “when a king enters his city the loyal go forth to meet him...” (Jamison Faucett Brown).

Yet another states that the word “meet” is used “of the official reception given to a visiting governor, whom his citizens escort into the city from which they have come to meet him” (1986, notes on 1 Thess. 4:13-18; F.F. Bruce's International Bible Commentary).

What does it mean? Well when we put it all together it becomes clear. When Jesus returns, true Christians will be resurrected and rise to meet the King of Kings! As an escort of honor, they’ll officially welcome the newly arriving King and accompany Him back to the earth where He will rule from Jerusalem.

That’s what this passage is all about. So imagine the celebration and the excitement. No wonder God’s people would be encouraged with this amazing truth.

Another important aspect is that trumpet blast that Paul wrote about. The book of Revelation tells of trumpets sounding at the end of the age. When the seventh and final angel sounds, the announcement is the finale, the last and greatest event: The return of Jesus Christ to initiate the Kingdom of God on earth.

“Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, ‘The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!’” (Revelation 11:15).

I hope you see the significance. Scripture doesn’t allow for a quiet secret rapture of Christians to heaven for several years! Instead, that “last trumpet” announces Christ’s return to rule over the earth.

Now there is one other passage that we should consider. It’s used to support the idea of a secret rapture. In fact, you may be familiar with the verse that says, “Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left” (Matthew 24:41). It’s found in Matthew 24 and in Luke 17.

Now to understand this passage—we’ll need to step back and look at the context of the verse. Have you ever noticed that Jesus says something remarkable right after that statement?

He says, “Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together” (Luke 17:37). In Matthew it says “wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together” (Matthew 24:28). Now, that sounds kind of odd, doesn't it? Yet it is significant. So let’s sort it out.

Jesus is paraphrasing the inspired words of Job. He says: “Does the eagle mount up at your command, and make its nest on high? On the rocks it dwells and resides, on the crag of the rock and the stronghold. From there it spies out the prey; its eyes observe from afar” (Job 39:27-30).

The symbolism in this story helps unlock this mysterious statement that Jesus Christ gave many years later.

What do these eagles represent? Well other scriptures show “eagles” can symbolize God’s faithful people. Notice: “But those who wait on the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint” (Isaiah 40:31).

Next, let’s notice where Job said those eagles dwell: “On the rocks it dwells and resides, on the crag of the rock and the stronghold” (Job 39:28). You see that symbolism points to God’s people as eagles dwelling in the rock. In other words, relying on Jesus Christ, who is our spiritual Rock (1 Corinthians 10:4).

Then the verse speaks of “prey,” which is “afar off” that the “eagles” are seeking. In other words, what are God’s true people looking forward to in the near future?

The answer is found in Matthew 6:33, “…seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness…”

So if we summarize that passage, we find that the eagles, who are God’s faithful people, are spying out, or seeking first, the return of Jesus Christ and the establishment of His Kingdom on earth.

And by unlocking that symbolic meaning in Job, we can reread Christ's statement in context.

He said, “For as the lightning that flashes out of one part under heaven shines to the other part under heaven, so also the Son of Man will be in His day…Two women will be grinding together: the one will be taken and the other left. Two men will be in the field: the one will be taken and the other left” (Luke 17:24, Luke 17:35-36).

So we see this is referring to the end of the age. The context is about the coming Kingdom of God on Earth. Christ is predicting events that will occur just before His return to this earth and the resurrection of God’s faithful people.

Now the important question: Will God’s faithful people be whisked away? Or will they be resurrected at the end of the age and gather around the “body” of the returning Jesus Christ?

Well let’s notice it: “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

You see, now we can understand that Jesus Christ is the “body” that the “eagles”—His faithful people, the Church—will be gathered at the resurrection. That’s when He returns to rule over the nations as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

So you see, when we allow the Bible to interpret itself, it’s unmistakably clear that Christ fully returns to the earth to fulfill the countless prophecies about the coming of the Messiah, the King of Kings, to save the world. It’s unreasonable to think that He would come and briefly be there to only leave and not return for years!

Remember what Jesus Himself prayed: “I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one” (John 17:15).

Now that’s just the opposite of a secret rapture! The Bible doesn’t promise that God will take believers to heaven to protect them from the troubles to come. Jesus prayed for just the opposite—our protection from evil while we’re here on the earth.

There is no doubt—Christ will return, but be careful not to read into those prophecies words and ideas that just aren’t in Scripture. There is a second coming and a resurrection of the faithful, but there is no secret rapture.

In Jesus’ true teaching there is also an admonition. The challenge for all of us is to be sure that we’re considered by God to be His worthy “eagles” at His return. That at the resurrection, we want to be with the “body” of Jesus Christ when He returns in power to set up His Kingdom on Earth, and to rule over all the nations with His faithful people.

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[Steve] The idea of Christians being secretly raptured to heaven is a false teaching. Remember, just because many believe it, doesn’t make it true.

Now your Bible does teach there is a frightening time of world trouble ahead. But more importantly, it also teaches that Jesus will come again to set the world right. He will resurrect His loyal, obedient people.

Be sure you are loyal. Be sure you’re obedient to God, because now is the time to obey. Now is the time to repent, to change. It’s not too late. So, don’t get caught up. Don’t get caught up in that idea of a secret rapture. Always turn to the Bible so you can understand the true teachings of Jesus Christ.

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  • r33ce99
    Sorry Steve, but you need to give us the full context. Those verses you mention are referring to the second coming. The second coming and rapture are two separate events, unless it doesn't bother you there are contradictions. You are also wrong about no mention of rapture in Revelation, it is right there in Revelation 12, clearly. And Noah entered the ark 7 days before final judgement came, Joseph and the famine lasted for 7 years, Lot's family escaped before judgement... etc. So I don't know how you can cherry pick scripture, and claim a rapture in the middle of judgement. I have loads of Biblical evidence of a rapture (pre-trib), so contact me for it.
  • bartels.doug
    If I am hearing you correctly, you are equating tribulation with judgement, as synonyms? Let's look at these two verses: "these things I have spoken to you, that in me ye may have peace, in the world ye shall have tribulation, but take courage—I have overcome the world" (Joh 16:33) compared that to "because it is the time of the beginning of the judgment from the house of God, and if first from us, what the end of those disobedient to the good news of God" (1Pe 4:17). Tribulation - G2347 - thlipsis: From G2346; pressure (literally or figuratively): - afflicted, (-tion), anguish, burdened, persecution, tribulation, trouble. Total KJV occurs: 45 and none used in any sense of judgement. Judgement - G2917 - krima: From G2919; a decision (the function or the effect, for or against [“crime”]): - avenge, condemned, condemnation, damnation, + go to law, judgment. Total KJV occurs: 28 and none of which relate to tribulation. In both cases the believer will experience tribulation and judgement in their age. Tribulation for all in this world, while judgment is now for the house of God (His elect), each in their age, then at the Great White Throne, judgement for all others. Peace...
  • Steven Britt
    Hi Reece, the United Church of God does not teach the pre-tribulation rapture idea because it fails to harmonize with the clear statement of scripture. Matthew 24:29-31 says plainly, "AFTER the tribulation" (v29) is when Jesus comes "on the clouds" (v30) and sends the angels to "gather together His elect" (v31). To move the conversation forward, you need to explain this apparent contradiction to the rapture idea. You mentioned Revelation - I can only assume you're referring to Revelation 12:14, which says, "she was given two wings... that she might fly to the wilderness to her place where she is nourished for a time, times and half a time [3.5 years]." A more reasonable reading of this verse is that God will divinely protect His people on the earth (as He did for Noah, Joseph, and Lot) during the tribulation - no rapture required. To interpret this as the saints being raptured to heaven before the tribulation is directly contradictory to Matt 24 (and several others!) Also, heaven is NOWHERE else in scripture called a "wilderness." This fits the idea of divine protection before a calamity but also harmonizes with the bible.
  • Rob55
    Sorry Reece but the teaching of a "rapture" is an error. Paul unmistakeably shows us that "those that remain.." are 'CAUGHT UP" When Messiah returns. What precedes that is those that have fallen asleep (DIED)are RAISED... So what is happening when Messiah returns? Israel is about to be destroyed its the end of the end and that is when Messiah returns. One of the major purposes of Messiah is to reunite house of Israel with the house of Judah!
  • brian.numerick
    I just watched this segment and certainly agree that this is a false doctrine. I wish Mr. Myers would have also addressed another area of scripture that is erroneously used by rapture proponents, regarding the timing of the Day of the Lord. Their teaching says that since nobody but the Father knows the day or the hour of the coming of the Son of man ( the 7th trumpet), and since we know the number of days from the abomination of desolation, that the rapture must occur before the tribulation. Please address this. I have many in my family who are rapture believers and I want to be equipped with truth when the time comes for me to show them the errors in that doctrine.
  • Steven Britt
    Hi Brian, I'd like to give a direct answer, but I find an indirect answer to be much more important- the rapture fails to reconcile clear statements in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 and Matthew 24:29-31 (and others) showing that the saints are resurrected at Jesus' return after the tribulation. The link below gives a visual comparison of the scriptures that may be helpful: Now the direct answer. We can't assume people will be able to accurately keep time during the tribulation - it will be a period of chaos and destruction unlike anything the world has ever seen (Matthew 24:22). The power grids could be crippled or EMP attacks can cause electronics to fail, making it difficult to keep track of time. The sun will be darkened (Revelation 6:12, Revelation 8:12), making it hard to know when days pass. These arguments are speculative, but perfectly reasonable given the prophesied severity. The argument raises a question that is easily answered, but it won't matter if they are unwilling to see how the rapture obviously falls short in the big picture.
  • jsayles7
    In regard to the day of the Lord we have to examine the seven "appointed times" for the redemption of fallen mankind in Christ. (1) Passover (14 Nisan) - Jesus Crucified; 2) Unleavened Bread (15 Nisan) - sinless Jesus buried; 3) Firstfruits (16 Nisan) - Jesus as the firstfruits from among the dead resurrected; 4) Pentecost (6 Sivan - 50th day after Passover) - the kingdom of God falls on the church consisting of Jews and Gentiles as "one new man" in Christ with no possibility of some future division of Jews and Gentiles as all are now identified as the Israel of God; 5) Trumpets (1 Tishri) - the resurrection of ALL the living and dead saints on the "last day" of this present age; 6) Atonement (10 Tishri) - The Lord returns to the earth with all His saints to destroy His enemies and establish the millennial kingdom - the "survivors" who have not persecuted the body of Christ or taken the covenant mark of the beast kingdom (Joel 2:23) will receive Him on that day and be regenerated as "born-again" believers. These are also those who will populate the earth during the millennial kingdom; 7) Tabernacles (10 Tishri) - 1. We will tabernacle with Him 1000 yrs and then all eternity.
  • brian.numerick
    Please provide scriptural references for your statement, "Pentecost (6 Sivan - 50th day after Passover) - the kingdom of God falls on the church consisting of Jews and Gentiles as "one new man" in Christ with no possibility of some future division of Jews and Gentiles as all are now identified as the Israel of God". I want to study this further.
  • Steven Britt
    Hi Brian - one technical point: Pentecost does NOT occur 50 days after Passover on Sivan 6 every year - the date changes because it is counted rather than set, as we are instructed to "count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath" in Leviticus 23:16. Pentecost is the only holy day that is not given a fixed date on the Hebrew calendar. You can read a fuller explanation of why we understand it this way at Regarding the meaning of Pentecost, the primary message is receiving God's Holy Spirit and becoming the firstfruits in God's harvest of mankind. This certainly includes both Gentiles and Jews alike and Paul did call the Church the "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16), but the quote from James makes this simple point seem mysterious. The unity of God's people is a major theme of the bible that runs through many of the Holy Days, not just Pentecost, and includes any division that one might make among people (Galatians 3:28). For an overview of the rich meaning of Pentecost for us today, see
  • David C
    But ask your self where does it fit in that he comes with 144,000 I don't believe he is talking abut the dead, since the dead are being raised at his coming.
  • Charlie Hart
    The 144,000 are the First Fruits of God, His Saints and who were converted through the time of the Great Tribulation. They are of the 12 Tribes of Israel. They are sealed by God for protection from the Day of the Lord (God's wrath) Other First Fruits will be raised up at the sound of the last trumpet and those who are alive and remain after the tribulation (Satan's wrath on the Saints of God) at His coming will meet Christ in the air along with those resurrected. 1 Thess 4:16 The dead that are raised before the Great White Throne Judgement are those who are in the second resurrection Rev 20:11-15 Then following would be the resurrection to eternal death in the Lake of Fire. Those who believe in the Pre-Tribulation rapture typically confuse Satan's wrath which lasts 3 1/2 years and the Day of The Lord which is God's wrath when He pours out plagues on the people. They typically will say "Why would God pour out His wrath on believers", the misunderstanding is they don't see that it is actually the wrath of Satan and his system that are poured out on the Saints. So in short no the 144,000 are not those who are resurrected.
  • Caari
    Yes, thw rapture was translated from Latin. Dont only read Thess, Mark, Matthew and Luke. Study Revelation, do electronic searches in an online KJV Bible for words referring to this happening. Rev 14 refers to harvest.... Search the NT for tribulation... We have to study Rev which is a book on future events which contains a lot of warnings. This book make me cry everytime I read it...I cry for the lack if knowlegde and many teachings that needs to be undone in pple....people who blindly believe what they read.
    I supposed that due to limited time; where Christ went, after transforming true believers in the 1st resurrection, was not expounded on. However, ultimately, we see that He will land on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14: 4-9). As far as the two women are concerned?; Sadly, one will rise to meet Christ in the air, but the other will not, at that time, be a part of that resurrection. This was a warning to remain diligent and vigilant in preparing for His return! You don't want to miss the most important opportunity that a human being can experience!
  • Trick James
    Excellent Study. Thank You. Mr Myers, you did loose me about halfway through when explaining the two women, one taken and one left. Ok, where the body is the eagles will be gathered. You cite JOB - eagles gather on a rock. Then you cite ISAIAH eagles are those that wait on the Lord and dwell on a (the) Rock which is Christ and that the prey afar off is what you say is Gods people looking at the coming kingdom of God. These explanations seem like conjecture and proof-texting to get your point across about the two women. I do understand that the the two women are not like in the "Left Behind" books series where one of them just disappears in a secret rapture. To me, you kind of beat around the bush and did not come to a clear conclusion about the two women. Plainly what happened to the two women? Did one rise up to meet Christ at His coming and the other one was left on earth? If I am left confused about this maybe some others are also. Please don't take my ignorance and confusion as criticism or disbelief. I understand your conclusion about no secret rapture.
  • Dan Preston
    Thank you for your question regarding the two women grinding at the mill. The context of this scripture is Christ's warning that there will be many people claiming to be Him or that He has already returned. His actual, physical return, will be quick and seemingly out of nowhere, just like a lightening strike (Matthew 24:5, Luke 17:22-24). The women at the mill, along with the others that Christ mentions in this section of scripture, were ordinary, every day kinds of activities. Christ illustrates through these example that n the middle of ordinary, daily life, Christ's return will be a shock to many. Some, left standing, will not understand what has happened. The faithful, those spoke of as being taken, will be rising in the air to meet Christ (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The references in Job and Isaiah point to the diligent, watchful eyes of the eagle. As Christ concludes his warning about not to be caught off guard, He gives us admonition to be like the watchful eagle (Luke 17:37, Matthew 24:28). We should maintain a diligent attitude as we seek for the Kingdom of God!
  • Chinga Govhati
    Oh how profound! I am excited. Thank you for breaking it down. It sure makes a whole lot of sense now.
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