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The answer can be found by looking at three points found in the Bible.

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  • sharlyn26
    Cross is not the symbol of your faith because you are not accepting the NEW COVENANT. It is the new set of commandments given by God: to love God and to love your neighbor as you love yourself. You do not agree that Jesus is the New Covenant and that Mary, His mother is the Ark of the Covenant as stated in the Book of Revelation. You are the false prophets mentioned in the New Testament that people should not believe in. The mark of the true faith is the church that Saint Peter built, the Catholic Church. The church that can explain the Bible in any form of approach and will still be able to come up with the same answer.
  • Ronaldbell1992
    Hi there Sharlyn, I actually just saw these comments now! Sorry for a late reply. We do accept the New Covenant Church through Christ Jesus. who revealed God the Father to us. He ex-bounded upon His most perfect Law of Godly Love which we follow. In Revelation 12:1 - 6 the woman listed here has no mention of this being Mary (though I can how many could see that at first), but when you browse down to verse 6 it talks about the woman fleeing into the wilderness to a place that has God's protection is to keep her safe from the dragon (Satan) during the end times before Jesus Christ returns to Earth. This women speaks of the church who will be persecuted by the beast power and Satan. Mary as well as all the other saints all sleep in the grave and await Jesus Christ's return so that our Savior may Resurrect them into everlasting life. Revelation 20:6 "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years". Have a blessed day.
  • Skip Miller
    Hello Sharlyn, You are obviously very sincere in your belief. So I would not want to argue about that strongly felt belief. But I was a little puzzled about Mary being "the Ark of the Covenant as stated in the Book of Revelation." Could you tell me a little more about that please? The Apostle Peter, great man that he became after receiving God's Holy Spirit was not the one upon which God's true New Testament church was built. That honor belongs to Jesus Himself. But I really would like to know more about Mary being "the Ark of the Covenant, as stated in the Book of Revelation."
  • padams50
    Because "faith comes by hearing," I've pretty much given up on worrying about who doesn't understand, and who does. Because it is God who is sovereign, Bible truths should be on a hilltop, not under a bushel. "Good job" for sending this info out into the world.
  • padams50
    De 12:30-32 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods. What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. People celebrate x-mass & Easter, go to church on Sunday, and wear crosses, all done as elements of worship to God. The church says not to do it because God says not to do it. It doesn't matter whether we believe it's okay or not. How did the pagans worship their gods? I think I'll worship my god the same way. God says don't do it. "The Two Babylons," by Hislop, is a really good book exposing paganism.
  • jmparkhill
    Interjection here people. As a member of the United Church of God, I stand by what the Church believes about this. But we also should present these things as a Bible Study to the Church instead of sermonette to be broadcasted as such. . The Cross has had an ugly history and can be proven. But should we white wash the word "Cross" out of the Bible. Do we cut and paste our belief about the pagan origins of the word cross into what the Cross should mean to us.? The Original word is "Stauros" or upright pale. Can we teach about the "Pale" to the world when the world won't understand what we say. I think a better approach on this should have been handled instead of this going out into the world. How are we to take up the Stake and follow Christ? The scriptures says to "crucify the flesh." Although what Mr. Bell said is true, but we can't change what is already in the Bible. The word is "Cross"! But we don't worship it. It's a life that we have to bear to take up and show the world that we have to bear all things for Christ. Our flesh means nothing. Being a Son of the Living God is the ultimate purpose for all.
  • Reverend Jim
    Again. Nobody I know worships a cross! You misunderstand just what idolatry is. A cross is figurative of hardships we must endure as we follow Christ and in Christianity symbolizes Christ death. Nobody is breaking the second commandment be wearing a cross or Churches that have them. Crosses have different meanings to different cultures. We can attribute all sorts of things to pagan roots. That doesn't mean that those things are viewed upon in that same way. Attributing Easter, Christmas, and crosses to pagan roots does nothing for the cause of Christ. It just makes us as a religion look divided and hypocritical to the outside world. I wear a cross, and people who see it know I'm a Christian. I celebrate Easter and Christmas. I go to the stations of the cross in a Catholic church sometimes, (I'm not Catholic) My church has a cross above the altar and one on it's steeple. Are you going to condemn me and my Church the way Trinitarians have condemned me for being non-Trinitarian?
  • Steven Britt
    I aim to convince rather than condemn! Idolatry can refer to two different things: worshiping a false god OR using an image to worship the true God. In Judges 17, Micah dedicated an idol to God (clearly specifies that it is to worship Yahweh) - he worshiped the right God in the wrong way and it was sin. This is stated explicitly in Deuteronomy 12:4 where God warns against using idols to worship Him (as opposed to worshiping the idol itself), and expounded in Deuteronomy 12:30-31 where we are told not to rebrand ANY pagan practices in our worship of God. God reserves the right to tell us what is and isn't acceptable worship - we can't just do it any way we want. It is not right to co-opt pagan festivals and say we are worshiping God, and that is exactly where Christmas and Easter come from. We believe God doesn't want to be worshiped with crosses, so we don't bring them into our meeting places as others do. Rather than celebrate Christmas, we keep the Holy Days that Jesus celebrated, of which God said, "the feasts of the LORD... these are My feasts" (Leviticus 23:2). God gave us the right way to worship Him, but most of Christianity rejects it in favor of their traditions.
  • sharlyn26
    I think you have to convince yourself of what is TRUTH really. The cross is the mark of true faith. True faith meaning, only Jesus is worthy to stand before the glory of God. This is not just a reminder of sacrifice for our sins but also an emblem of God's plan. The New Covenant that has been introduced by Jesus, is marked by the symbol of suffering/sacrifice which is the cross. In the Old Testament, the Star of David is the mark of acceptance to the Covenant. This mark was written on the golden Ark of the Covenant where the Decalogue is kept. Then in the New Testament, it has been changed. The way to symbolize it is no longer the same because Jesus made everything new. The Ark of the Covenant is no longer the same too. Now, it is Mary, who became the instrument of God to keep His New Covenant. It is mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Why would you read the Old Testament's Covenant when it has already been mentioned that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life? And that everything is changed? You are confusing yourself literally. Even lawyers would tell you that you got it all wrong. You messed up everything when you stated the verses from the Old Testament.
  • Ivan Veller
    Respectfully, Sharlyn, "the sum of [God's] word is truth, and every one of [His] righteous rules endures forever" (Psalm 119:60 ESV). "Just then a lawyer stood up to test Jesus. 'Teacher,' he said, 'what must I do to inherit eternal life?' (Luke 10:25 NRSV). "‘Well,’ replied Jesus, ‘what is written in the law?" (v. 26 NTE). "'If you want to enter eternal life, keep the commandments'" (Matthew 19:17 CEB). Do we?
  • Reverend Jim
    Convince people of what? That if they go to Church on Sunday or have a cross in their Church, or celebrate Easter and Christmas they're condemned? You don't see my point. NOBODY uses a cross to worship God! That's a false accusation! A cross is no more than a symbolic remembrance of the death of Christ. Maybe you should take another look at where the UCG meetings are held in Derry, NH. Your meetings are in the Presbyterian Church fellowship hall but the Church has a cross on top of it! Too many Churches and too many people today are too self-righteous and critical of one another. What good does it do to tell people that they are guilty of idol worship when they don't worship the cross anyway? All you people do is give believers and unbelievers alike a hypocritical perception of the cross by falsely accusing people of worshipping the cross. NOBODY WORSHIPS A CROSS! One would think that with all the Christian Radio and television stations there are these days, for every 1 person that's added to the body, four leave. Many Christians are becoming Atheist because of the hypocritical judgmental perception all of you as followers of Christ give to the unsaved world.
  • Skip Miller
    Hello James, Perhaps you were just venting but it sounds to me like you have already made up your mind. Mr. Bell was simply stating facts. Facts can be ascertained (although in our world today we seem not to be able to agree on much.) Let's look at a couple of things we know: Jesus was a Jew and kept God's Sabbaths. Jews back then were pretty upset when anything that hinted of idolatry came into their sphere of influence. The early Church was mostly Jewish until Peter (with Cornelius) and Paul (in his travels) opened up people's minds to the Bible given fact that God (both Father and Son) have a plan for salvation that includes everyone who wants to live as God has stated and written. When did the cross (t) become a symbol of Jesus? If you research this subject you find pretty much what Mr. Bell states! I remember on one of our trips to Italy for God's Feast of Tabernacles, we visited the Uffizi Art Gallery in Florence. In one of the rooms they had depictions of Roman crucifixions. Although there were some stakes with cross beams (T) most of the statuary (with bodies depicted attached) actually were simply upright stakes or poles. Who made the cross (T or t) into idolatry?
  • Reverend Jim
    The cross has nothing to do with idolatry because nobody worships a cross! Are you saying that people who go to church on Sunday with a cross in their church are twofold idolaters? This is what disturbs me about the debacle religion of Christianity. They can't agree on anything, constantly complain and condemn one another and everybody thinks they have the truth giving unbelievers the perception that were all a bunch of hypocrites.
  • Steven Britt
    There is no support for involving the cross in worship in the New Testament, and certainly the superstitious way that power is often ascribed to a cross worn on a necklace, for example, is inappropriate. This isn't about division, it's about seeking to worship God "in spirit and truth" (John 4:24) - apart from the pagan origins of the symbol, we simply do not think that God would be pleased by the use and reverence of crosses and that it breaks the spirit of the 2nd commandment. From our Q&A on the topic, "Some would argue that using a cross in this manner symbolizes the value of Christ’s death. We disagree. It’s true that the apostle Paul referred to the cross in a symbolic way (1 Corinthians 1:17, 23). Paul also used the cup of wine from the Passover as a symbol (1 Corinthians 10:21). And John the Baptist referred to Christ as the “Lamb of God” (John 1:36). But this doesn’t mean that we should begin to use cups or figures of lambs as religious ornaments or as objects of worship" (from https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/treasure-digest-question-and-answer-why-doesnt-your).
  • Reverend Jim
    A cross in a church isn't idolatry. Nobody I know worships a cross. In the Hebrew it is used in reference to domestic gods and of human figures. In the NT it refers to money or worship of false gods, heathen sacrifices, and immortality. People don't pray to a croos or put the cross before God. It's symbolic of Christ death. This only make Christianity look divided and hypocritical. When people bow down before a cross, they aren't worshiping IT. They are simply bowing before God remenberig His son's death upon it. You guys are blowing this way out of proportion. I'm losing faith in the UCG. Too often you attribute things to paganism when nearly everything on the planet can be attributed to paganism. Books have pagan origins so you better stop reading your bible. This kind of teaching only alienates unbelievers and makes Christianity look divided and hypocritical. I've lost faith in the UCG. When I look at what the UCG believes, I see a church no better than any other. Just like all the others, it just promotes more confusion and divisiveness to the unsaved world. It's no wonder the church smells like a stagnant swamp and why people want nothing to do with church.
  • joshton
    Do we really need cross as a symbol for christianity? cross was invented by romans as a means of torture and death so how can it be symbol for christinaity? the apostles dint wear crosses around their to show themselves as a christian but showed in their words and actions. Just coz other religions have symbols we as christians cant do the same. Learn not the ways of the heathen. The first believers were not called christians, they were just called followers of christ (christ is not even a hebrew word). You are calling yourself reverend which can only be associated to God. Did God appoint you?
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