Ash Wednesday and Lent - Biblical Days?

Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Here's a challenge: where is the tradition of Lent found in the Bible?

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[Steve Myers] Why would you celebrate Ash Wednesday and Lent ? This is the season for that. Many people are celebrating Ash Wednesday today and yet don't really realize some of the implications of what it really means. Is it really a biblical day that you need to keep? Is it one you celebrate? Is Lent a period of time that's biblical? Did the New Testament Church keep those days?

[Darris McNeely] Ash Wednesday marks the 40 day period leading up to Easter Sunday and the celebration of Easter in the Christian world. It's this 40 day period that somehow is supposed to connect with the 40 days periods within the Bible of temptation or testing and trial.

[Steve Myers] In fact, one of them was the fact that Christ fasted 40 days, but it's not connected with Lent in any way. It wasn't even at this time of the year that He did that.

[Darris McNeely] Nor is Easter of course mentioned within the Scriptures at all. The Easter Sunday traditions have nothing to do with biblical practice and God's commands for our observance. But, there are a number of connections that Ash Wednesday, Fat Tuesday—and we were talking about that yesterday—have to pagan celebrations and pagan origins, which, you know, I know a lot of people today really don't care that things are pagan, but I think we do need to care because God cares. In the book of Ezekiel chapter 8 He does talk about a practice that the Prophet Ezekiel was pointed to that God was saying was something that was an abomination to Him. And it was people weeping in the temple for Tammuz. In Ezekiel 8:14, Ezekiel writes, "He brought me to the door of the North Gate of the Lord's house and to my dismay women were sitting there weeping for Tammuz. And He said to me, 'Have you seen this O son of man? And turn again you will see greater abominations than these.'" Now some scholars, I think rightly do connect this to some of these celebrations of the risen God, the risen Savior and this particular practice of weeping for Tammuz does have pagan origins.

[Steve Myers] Whose mother was Ishtar, where the… ( Depending on the story Tammuz was the husband or the son of the goddess Ishtar. )

[Darris McNeely]  Right.

[Steve Myers]…word Easter comes from that. So there are definitely connections historically to that.

[Darris McNeely] But the point is God says these are abominations. And what's interesting when you go on down to verse 17 He says, "Have you seen this O son of man? Is it a trivial thing to the house of Judah to commit the abominations which they commit here? For they have filled the land with violence and then they return to provoke Me to anger" (Ezekiel 8:17). The point is, these pagan celebrations, of which Tammuz is only one that plagued ancient Israel and of which we have more, the modern origins and counterparts today in these celebrations of Easter and Ash Wednesday, really are abominations to God. And they lead to a way of life that creates so many other problems that are at the root of the violence and the problems that we see as a part of world—that people, politicians, philosophers and theologians cannot find solutions to. But God says they're abominations and that's why it's important, that's why these pagan issues are so critical for people to understand.

[Steve Myers] They are detestable before God.  And so a challenge to you, look these things up. Check them out. What did the New Testament Church practice when it came to these things? They had nothing to do with Easter. They had nothing to do with Lent. They had nothing to do with Ash Wednesday. But what was a proper fast? What were the days that they kept? You'll find something very interesting if you begin to check those things out.

[Darris McNeely] It's time that you do. That's BT Daily . Join us next time.

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hooleeahh

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Umm Let me see, all these things that I will mention here are an "Abomination" to the Lord, my God. Christmas, Easter, Lent, Ash Wednesday, Kings day, New year's Day, Valentines Day, St. Patricks Day, April Fool's Day, Mayday, June, summer solstice, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Halloween, All soul's day, All Saints Day, Thanksgiving, New Years Eve, Winter Solstice, Mardi gras, UMM how are you going to convince a multitude of people to accept this? Most people do this to have a good time, I think of it more spiritually. And now I'm being told that all I thought was false? So also, I can't pray to the Saints either?Like a small prayer to St. Jude, or St. Anthony to help me find things I lost? I consider them my advocates, helpers, to intercede for me. Guess I will be Damned for that too. Oh well.




hooleeahh

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Kinda feels like I'm being indoctrinated




Ivan Veller

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It is a lot to take in at once, isn't it? :) Take a breather---take it slow. As we have said for so many decades, don't take our word for it---check out what we say; compare it with scripture. Find out what the scripture itself says! I'm glad you don't want to be indoctrinated; we wouldn't want that either. Don't believe us; believe the bible. We want your faith to be grounded on the solid word of scripture.

For instance, even "David himself never ascended into heaven" (Acts 2:34, NLT 2007). In fact, except for Christ, "no one has ascended into heaven" (John 3:13, LEB 2010). St. Jude remains dead and buried, because when a person dies, and "he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish" (old-school KJV).

From Paul, we know that the living Christ is the one who is speaking to the Father on our behalf, "interceding for us" (Romans 8:34 NIV 2011). Just as there is only one God, there is only "one mediator between God and humanity, Christ Jesus" (1 Timothy 2:5, HCSB 2009).




dziwczyna

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hooleeah: "Kinda feels like I'm being indoctrinated"

That's a good point! But the question is, have you already been indoctrinated?

If you are indoctrinated by the Bible, you will live "by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God" (Matt. 4:4). This includes keeping His festivals, that the WHOLE world disregards (Lev. 23).

Satan deceives the whole world (Rev. 12:9). I'm sure there is a very good reason why that verse is included in the Bible.

The good news is that we don't have to be deceived. We have the Bible to read as our guide. If we can't believe the Bible, what can we believe in?

There is also a lot of information on the Catholic Encyclopedia, which tells about the origins of the festivals that most people in the world keep today. I'll give you a hint, they are man made and most predated Christ.

All the best!




Celestine Alou

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This is more confusing and smacks of a deviation from the Bible itself. But first, the assertion that these festive days (Easter, Lent, Christmas etc.) are man made and have no grounding in the Bible. This may be or may not be true,what though,that even the Bible itself is man - made, it did not drop down from Heaven or did it? Because it is man-made is the reason we have several and numerous editions of the same Holy Book just like the many Christian sects that are sprouting every day in every corner of the world. To testify further to this,each version of the Bible is now being "doctored" to suit the interests of particular Christian beliefs. It is also common knowledge that most of these newly found Christian Churches are seeking short -cuts to the Glory of God. Most use and quote the Bible selectively and avoid some scriptures. For instance, while some Churches preach of Jesus as the Saviour, they conveniently avoid to talk about the incarnation of the Son of God through the Blessed Virgin Mary. Some even question the death and ressurection of Jesus and more dispute the teachings of Jesus about life after death and the day of final judgement for the living and the dead. Yet these are the truths contained in the Ministry of Jesus that they proclaim to be their personal saviour.




dust_i_am

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I gave up Lent years ago. Not for Lent, I mean. But I did give it up. :-)




Ivan Veller

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Why does Mark not even mention Mary but a couple times until chapter 15---was he being inappropriately "selective" in his preaching? Or was he writing under the inspiration of God, divinely approved in the content and focus of his message?

In declaring "the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:27, NKJV), there is most certainly a time and place to speak of Mary in the context of the majesty and mercy of God, as was her own focus:

"For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed. For He who is mighty has done great things for me, And holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him From generation to generation" (Luke 1:48-50 NKJV).

The beauty of Christ's message, however, is that "whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother" (Mark 3:35 NKJV). While individual people throughout the bible (such as Mary, Abigail, Elizabeth, and many other highly honorable and praiseworthy people) have made significant contributions and deserve to be recognized and honored for the good they have done (Proverbs 31:31), the gospel of the kingdom of God ultimately focuses our attention not on people (not even Christ, who consistently focused people's attention not on his person but on God the Father, John 17:1) but on "doing the will of God" (Mark 3:34-35) so that we can be a part of that same family of believers:

"love...that you may be children of your Father in heaven, Matthew 5:44-45, NIV)

"'Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!'" (Luke 11:27b NKJV). But he said, "Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!" (v. 28, ESV).




Ivan Veller

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"Babylonian mythology regarding Ishtar claimed that she had a son named Tammuz. He died each year, but then would be reborn again in the spring. The Babylonian veneration of both the mother and child influenced later versions of Christianity that deified Jesus' mother Mary as much as Jesus Himself (Sir James Frazer, The Golden Bough , 1993, p. 326). This stands in contrast to Scripture, which honors Mary, but reveres no ordinary human being—only Christ" (Cobb & Dunkle, 2011, "Paganism in Christianity").

http://www.ucg.org/holidays-and-holy-days/paganism-christianity/
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"Observances rooted in paganism break the first two of the Ten Commandments...Celebrating...or adopting...rites to other gods and goddesses violates God's clear instruction: "You shall have no other gods before Me" (Exodus 20:3). Inventing religious feasts to replace those given by God contradicts His teaching: "You shall not make for yourself an idol" [of Mary] "...You shall not...worship them..."...Substituting pagan customs and practices for what God has commanded—regardless of how well intentioned it might be— is idolatry" (Treybig, 2008, "God's Days of Worship").

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/holidays-or-holy-days-does-it-matter-which-days-we-observe/gods-days-worship/
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"Our Savior made it clear that God the Father is to be our focus when we pray and that we are to concentrate on His glory, power, might and love for us...Jesus Christ did not focus attention on Himself. If we were to pray directly to Him, we might overlook God the Father. Many branches of Christianity put more emphasis on mediators than on the Supreme Being. Many Catholics view Mary, the mother of Jesus, as the chief mediator. Many Protestants focus primarily on Christ and virtually ignore God the Father...[However,] If we are to follow the examples of Jesus Christ and the apostles, and their scriptural instruction, God must be the focus of our worship...By becoming God-centered Christians, we will hold the biblical perspective of always looking to God the Father, following the example of Jesus Christ Himself in all He did" (Seiglie, 1996, "Who Is the Center of Our Worship?").

http://www.ucg.org/christian-living/who-center-our-worship/



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