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Just because you have problems in a church where you go doesn't mean that you should not attend with other Christians. We are expected to attend with each other.

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[Gary Petty] This is part three in our series, "Fed Up with Church." As I mentioned before, I'm going through a study of why people sort of get fed up with church, and it's not just young people. We usually think of younger people, millennials, and others, who are sort of disillusioned with church. I read something recently where the people older than them in their 30s and their 40s and even early 50s are getting fed up with their churches for an interesting reason. It seems their churches change their style, adding certain kinds of music and certain kinds of teaching to interest them when they were in their teens and their 20s. They're older now, and they find that, well, sort of shallow. They want something else. 

Everybody's looking for something else, and that has led a lot of people to believe that, "Well, my relationship with God is personal, and I don't need to go to church because I'm spiritual, not religious." Well, you know, all relationships with God is to be personal and all of us are to be spiritual. Now, what many people mean by religious is people who act religious, but they're really hypocrites. And that's wrong, but I don't have to go to church because I'm spiritual. There's a fundamental problem with that. When you look at the Scripture and you read through the New Testament, every place they went and preached the Gospel, they started congregations, people who assembled together and lived together as Christians interacting with each other. And it was messy. It was difficult. They had problems. They had to learn to get along with each other, and they all had sins and weird personalities sometimes. 

All the things we face today, you will find in the New Testament church, but they came together, and they didn't have the choices we have today. There wasn't a Christian church on every street corner. They were a small minority in the Roman Empire, many times persecuted. Just because you have problems in a church where you go, and maybe you need to change churches, but it doesn't mean that you should not attend with other Christians. We are expected to attend with each other. In fact, let's face it. God is creating a family. We are all his children and if the disciples of Jesus Christ, as his brothers and sisters, can't get along and we can't work it out, as hard as it is, that is very sad. What kind of example is that to the world?

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  • brian.numerick
    This is a great lesson and I appreciate the UCG organization for teaching truth and nothing but truth - you have been a great blessing to me. What advice can you provide to those of us who do not have a Sabbath-keeping congregation within a reasonable distance from home? Is it permissible or advisable to congregate with Sunday church-goers while also honoring and keeping the Sabbath at home? I make use of all of the available internet tools like UCG webcasts, video, audio, and written documents as well as those of other Sabbath-keeping organizations (mainly, Churches of God) along with Bible study and earnest prayer; but I definitely see the value in fellowship and congregational worship. Unfortunately, there is no "local" (to me) community of Sabbath-keepers. Making an hour plus trip every Saturday to get to the nearest congregation does not seem practical. Or is that the norm for most Sabbath-keepers (a long drive to Sabbath services)? Should I re-evaluate my expectations?
  • Steven Britt
    Hi Brian - it is unfortunately somewhat typical for Sabbath-keepers to have to drive an hour or more, but that's just the geographical reality of how spread out we are. It's reminiscent of Jeremiah 3:14, where God says He would bring out "one from a town and two from a clan"! At one point I lived right between two congregations and it was an hour drive to either one. It sounds like you've already looked at what United Church of God congregations are nearest to you (if not, you can check at http://ucg.org/congregations). It would be good to make an effort to at least visit even if it isn't practical for every week - it's likely you could find that there are people in the congregation who live close to you that you would be able to meet with outside of services. I would also recommend contacting the nearest pastor, as he would probably be able to come visit with you in your home.
  • brian.numerick
    Steven - thank you for your thoughtful response. Yes, I have located the nearest UCG congregation (Raleigh and Greensboro, NC) and did actually meet up with the pastor last summer. I made my first Sabbath service last month on the first day of Unleavened Bread. I am planning to attend more regularly.
  • Gary Petty
    Brian, I am glad that we've been able to help you on your spiritual journey. It can be difficult for Sabbath keepers to find a congregation. It isn't unusual for people to drive an hour to attend. The benefits of attending a Sabbath congregation when you are able can outweigh the difficulties in both fellowship and having a pastor. You will find that attending with a Sunday congregation has limited spiritual benefits since there are many subjects you must avoid in conversation. I encourage you to attend even if it isn't every week. Gary Petty
  • brian.numerick
    Thank you for replying Gary. I appreciate your advice and wisdom on this subject.
  • Skip Miller
    Hello Brian, I appreciate your sincere, well defined and explained question. I believe you have stated the challenge correctly. Where I live, several individuals do drive an hour or more each way to enjoy proper fellowship with like minded individuals. And there are others who do not. Some are elderly, have no one to ride with them, and thus do not feel safe alone for longer distances. On the other hand , these people have been around and have been established for quite awhile ! Until you have established a relationship with others in your closest congregation, I would recommend that you make the effort (& expense) to do as you have stated is necessary: come & fellowship, talk with and learn with those you are closest to you physically. Part of what you will learn is that your very presence is precious to others!. You may find that they have been waiting for YOU!
  • brian.numerick
    Skip - thank you for the quick response. I will do as you (and Gary Petty) advise. I won't be able to attend every Sabbath but I think 1-2 times a month is feasible. I appreciate your wisdom and advice on this topic.
  • vette20045
    Gary, I have stopped going to church for many reasons (Catholic).I get so much more true information from UCG booklets and Beyond Today on my pc. I also find many distractions mainly children near me that I come out of church with no closer feeling to God. My best interaction with Jesus is when I am praying to him in my dark bedroom before I go to sleep.
  • Gary Petty
    Harry, There is a benefit from assembling with other believers--fellowship, hearing biblical teachings, worshiping together and encouragement. I remember when our children were young and how sometimes my wife or I would become so distracted that we got little out of the church service. But, children do get older and the situation gets better. Gary Petty
  • Skip Miller
    Hello Harry, I wish I could say that children who are "a gift of God" never ever are disruptive. But I cannot. My own daughter (with 3) and our son (with one) must sometimes take them out for instruction (as my wife did for them 30 & 40 years ago.) But Jesus said to allow the little children to come unto Him, for of such is the Kingdom of God. I believe that that statement was both literally and figuratively true! I'm reminded of a thought that my wife had, "It surely would be much easier to learn as a monk in a monastery but it seems that Jesus wants us to Be in the world without becoming an integral part of (Satan's) world." That is much harder but perhaps part of the reason that Jesus promises great reward for those who do it.
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