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Could you be practicing idolatry without realizing it? Discover enlightening biblical truth.

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[Gary Petty] A number of years ago, I accompanied my son on a visit to a Hindu temple as part of a college comparative religion class he was taking. We watched as worshippers gathered in front of statues of various gods and goddesses, some shaped like animals, one in human female form with multiple arms, while priests made offerings of vegetables.

Now many Christians would say that Hindu rituals are idolatry and forbidden in the Bible. Other Christians claim that all religions are just different cultural ways to connect to the Creator.

On Beyond Today, we believe that the Bible is the revealed Word of God. Today’s subject isn’t one we can soften with political correctness. God strongly condemns idolatry in both the Old and New Testaments. The apostle John wrote, “Little children, keep yourselves from idols” (1 John 5:21).

So what is idolatry? Why did God condemn ancient Israel for worshipping idols? Are the use of Christian icons and statues idolatry? Why did the apostle Paul tell early Christians to “flee idolatry?”

We’re going to challenge you today by dealing with a hard question: “Are Christians Guilty of Idolatry?”

[Announcer] Join our host Gary Petty and his guests as they help you understand your future on Beyond Today!

[Gary] The apostle Paul walked through the congested streets of Athens, Greece—the philosophical and religious hub of the Roman Empire. In his many travels he was used to seeing statues of Greek, Roman and Egyptian gods and goddesses. But in Athens, he was distressed by the sheer number of idols.

Paul stood in the Areopagus—the amphitheater of the philosophers—and told them of an UNKNOWN GOD—the God of the Bible.

He looked into the faces of those educated and religious men and proclaimed, “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshiped with men's hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things” (Acts 17:24-25).

These religious philosophers were known for endlessly debating the nature of the gods, but Paul’s next words, it really caught their attention. His message contained a stern warning from this Unknown God. Paul said, “...we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising. Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness...” (Acts 17:29-31).

Let’s read that again because this is the center of what we are talking about today. Paul says, “...we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising. Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness...” (Acts 17:29-31).

God judges idolatry as evil. He commands those who practice it to “repent” or change and follow Him. But why does God take such a severe stance against idolatry?

First, let’s define idolatry. Primarily, idolatry is the worship of an image, statue or picture as a representation of deities. Now it can also mean the excessive adoration of anything that we hold more important than God.          

Ancient Israel was condemned and punished by God for idolatry. God revealed Himself to them in miraculous and incredible, wondrous ways. He sent them prophets, priests and leaders, and still, they were attracted to the worship of Baal, and Moloch and many other gods and goddesses of the peoples who lived around them. This worship involved the use of idols to represent the mystical powers of the spirit world.

The Israelites had been exposed to the reality of the Creator God. So why was idolatry—the images of gods represented in stone and wood—so attractive to them?

You see, answering this question can help us understand why many Christians today are guilty of idolatry.

It is important to recognize that the Israelite worship of Canaanite idols didn’t mean that they gave up worshipping the God of the Bible—cause they didn’t. They simply mixed the religious ideas and forms of worship together to create an inclusive religion. You see, all gods, all religions, were simply different ways to connect with the spirit world.

Does it sound a little bit familiar? This is the same message of New Age Christianity—a religion that is ultimately anti-Bible and anti-God of the Bible. Do not take the subject of idolatry lightly.

So what were some of the reasons why the Israelites were attracted to idols?

1. Well first, idolatry is an attempt to fulfill the human need for a spiritual connection.

You see, idolatry contains mysticism, secret knowledge, superstition and a “feeling” of connection with spiritual forces. The idol represents the unseen god and goddesses and contains mystical powers from that god. It is important to recognize that the emotional experiences associated with idolatry can be very intense. They can seem very real.

2. A second reason is that idolatry is an attempt to exert power over the gods and over nature.

Idolatry involves pleasing the gods or goddesses so that the practitioner can receive divine favor. Perform the right, appropriate ritual and you will have a good growing season. Say the appropriate prayer and the goddess is required to listen. Give the appropriate amount of money and the god of the idol is required to forgive you, or forgive your loved ones, of wrong doings.

3. A third reason the ancient Israelites were attracted to idolatry was the sexual freedom it afforded.

God limited sexual activity to a marriage, between a man and a woman. Many of the ancient pagan religions celebrated sexual freedom even sometimes including temple prostitution as an act of worship. This is one reason why the Israelites tried to mix religions together, so that they could claim loyalty to the God of Israel while reveling in sexual freedom.

The Bible is very specific in its condemnation of idolatry. God forbids idolatry because it perverts our understanding of His uniqueness as Creator and His relationship to us through both His grace and His authority.

In Deuteronomy 4 God reminded the Israelites of how He had given them the Ten Commandments from Mount Sinai. Now listen to what He told them, “Take careful heed to yourselves, for you saw no form when the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the midst of the fire, lest you act corruptly and make for yourselves a carved image in the form of any figure: the likeness of male or female, the likeness of any animal that is on the earth or the likeness of any winged bird that flies in the air, the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground or the likeness of any fish that is in the water beneath the earth. And take heed, lest you lift your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun, the moon, and the stars, all the host of heaven, you feel driven to worship them and serve them, which the Lord your God has given to all the peoples under the whole heaven as a heritage” (Deuteronomy 4:15-19).

Worship can be a very intense emotional experience, but the power and effects of worship originate in whom we worship—not from the superstitious use of icons and images and idols.

What do you think of when you hear the word “worship”?

In English, the word “worship” is used many times to mean singing of praise. But the Hebrew word translated “worship” means to “bow down”. It means to show total subjection. God declares that His uniqueness, His power, His goodness require that we bow down, or submit ourselves to Him.

Ritual idolatry is an attempt to please the spirits and motivate them to do the will of the person doing the ritual. Now listen to this, true worship of the Creator God is the desire to submit to His will in Spirit and truth.

The Creator of the universe is omnipresent. He possesses all power. He is absolute goodness. He is not bound by physical laws like you and I are. Idolatry denigrates the spiritual and awe-inspiring nature of the Great God. It is an attempt to recreate God in the image of His creation.

But if Christians aren’t careful, they can fall into a dangerous way of thinking. It goes something like this: God loves everyone. God is not exclusive. Therefore He can be discovered in all cultures and all religions—images of Vesta, or honoring Mother Earth or the Easter Island statues are all just different ways to relate to God.

Well here’s what King David wrote almost three thousand years ago, “But our God is in heaven; He does whatever He pleases. Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they do not speak; Eyes they have, but they do not see; They have ears, but they do not hear; Noses they have, but they do not smell; They have hands, but they do not handle; Feet they have, but they do not walk; Nor do they mutter through their throat. Those who make them are like them; So is everyone who trusts in them” (Psalm 115:3-8).

David wrote of the absolute futility of worshipping gods who don’t exist. The Bible teaches that “there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live...” (1 Corinthians 8:6). It is impossible to worship the true God through the statues and rituals of gods who do not exist. The God of the Bible is clear on this issue—His followers are to avoid all pagan idols.

Now this brings us to the hard question: Can Christians be guilty of the sin of idolatry?

If we really understand the biblical teaching—idolatry is one of the most common sins in the Christian world. Christians commit idolatry in two ways.

So, let’s go back to the definition of idolatry—the first definition is the worship of an image, statue, picture as a representation of deities. Many Christians commit idolatry in this way and don’t even think about it.

Here’s where you and I must do some intense, prayerful self-examination in the light of the Scripture. Let’s look at one example of idolatry practiced in many Christian churches.

For many Christians today there is a divine being, a being who through the Immaculate Conception is without sin, a being who acts as intercessor and mediator between human beings and God—and this divine being is represented with statues and images and venerated with prayers, lighting of candles and offerings. I’m talking about the representations of Mary, the mother of Jesus.

I’m not denigrating the importance of Mary in God’s plan as the mother of the Messiah—but think about what the Bible teaches us. Jesus is the Son of God. He sits on the heavenly throne at the right hand of the Father in power and majesty. The Scripture says that His face shines like the sun and we are instructed to pray in His name. And He is called Intercessor, Mediator and Redeemer.

We receive the privilege to enter into a relationship with God through the sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus because the Son of God is divine and sinless. Or, as Paul wrote to Timothy, “[God] who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself a ransom for all...” (1 Timothy 2:3-6).

Now the Bible honors Mary, but nowhere is she declared to be instrumental in the intercession or mediation between God and humanity.

On Beyond Today we don’t wish to belittle anyone’s sincerity or desire to connect with God. But we do seek to follow Jesus’ teaching when He said, “...a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks” (John 4:23).

The often made argument is that the statues of Mary are just “visual aids” in the worship of God. If we worship God in Spirit and truth, why would we need imagesthe very things forbidden by God in the second of the Ten Commandments?

From Mount Sinai God declared: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God...” (Exodus 20:4-5).

Christians who worship the God of Sinai need no pictures or images to relate to the invisible God. Christians need no heavenly intercessor except Jesus Christ. Christians need no heavenly mediator except Jesus Christ.

A little earlier, we discussed how idolatry is attractive in its attempt to fulfill the human need for a spiritual connection. Praying before a statue of Mary holding the baby Jesus can give you a sense of mysticism, a “feeling” of connection with spiritual forces. Remember, the emotional experiences associated with idolatry can be very intense and still be very wrong.

In addition to the obvious use of statues, there is another way Christians are guilty of committing idolatry, and this second way is a little more subtle. We have to be very careful about this one.

We may not worship the images of false gods, but are we guilty of idolizing materialism, status, work, pleasure?

You know, it’s really possible to make anything an idol by making it more important than God in our lives. We can make a husband, a wife, a child, a job, education, a house, possessions, car, land, status even entertainment. We can make all that an idol.

And this is the point Jesus’ makes in the Sermon on the Mount when He said, “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money” (Matthew 6:24).

Jesus said that we can’t live divided lives. We can’t pursue God’s will in our lives while expending all of our time and energy trying to obtain more and more things. This form of idolatry can be very difficult to recognize because of the sort of stressful urgency we have because of our emotional, physical and spiritual needs and our desires. We are driven by those things.  

So here is a soul searching question you need to ask, I need to ask: How do I spend my time, energy and resources?

Come on, have you ever been frustrated because you wish you had more time for prayer and Bible study and to serve God, but your time is consumed by the demands of your job and the weight of credit card bills? When you finally get some time off, you fill the hours with video games or a trip to the lake to try out a new boat, but it’s all just so frustrating and you just feel listless.

Our relationship with God requires daily interaction—like all relationships, our interaction with God requires both quantity time and quality time. This is why the apostle Paul in Ephesians 5:5 equates covetousness—this desire for things—with idolatry. When we have, when any of us have an obsessive and this desire for anything, even something that’s good, we can make that thing, that person, that experience more important than God. We are guilty of creating a false idol.

Now before we go to the Beyond Today panel to discuss how idolatry hinders our relationship with God, let’s review what we’ve covered today:

1. First of all, idolatry is the worship of an image, statue or picture as a representation of deities. The use of idols in worship is forbidden in both the Old and New Testaments.

2. Two: Although Mary, the mother of Jesus is honored in the Bible, there is no biblical support for her veneration or that she is in anyway a co-intercessor or co-mediator with Jesus Christ. To use statues of Mary and to pray to her is a form of idolatry.

3. And number three: Idolatry can also mean the excessive adoration of anything that we hold more important than God. And this is a much more subtle form of idolatry.         

We’re joined by fellow Beyond Today presenters, Darris McNeely and Steve Myers. It’s important for us to discuss, how does idolatry really distort our understanding of God?

[Darris] Well what happens with idolatry, Gary, is human beings take something and put it into the image of God whether it is a stone, obelisk, some type of an image of a woman or of a man, as in the ancient world. And the reason God said not to do it, was because it is totally impossible to capture the full nature and character of God in anything that is spatial or of any substance. And, as human beings we tend to put our own values, we put our own ideas into that of a god, and none of that begins to even come close to the nature and the character of God and therefore, we become blinded.

[Steve] You can see why God would say something like that. As almighty, omnipotent, all-knowing God, how can any object begin to capture what He is all about? And that just would get in the way of our worship of Him, so He says don’t do it. Don’t do it because that does not represent who I am.

[Gary] Right. But let’s be honest here with people who see venerating Mary or a crucifix as part of their relationship with God. And what they would say is that’s a visual aid. They realize that’s not Mary. They realize Jesus isn’t still hanging on the cross. But they see that as a visual aid. How do you deal with that? How do you answer that?

[Darris] Well again the visual aids we feel we have to have become something that replaces really what God is. And in the two cases you mentioned, Mary, while as you said in your program, Mary is honored as the mother of Jesus Christ and she does in Scripture there is a proper role for her, but she is not an intercessor for mankind. She is not to be worshipped as God, which is the actual theology there. And again, there’s no way that that can take the place of God. In fact, it gets in-between us and God no matter how sincere people are.

The idea of a cross as the symbol of Christianity was something that came much, much later in the story. There’s no way to even determine whether Christ actually was on a cross or on an upright stake. Historically, it could have been either one. But again, it gets in the way of really understanding who and what God is.

[Steve] I think that’s a great point, when you consider what the Bible says about it. What does God’s Word say? Are there any examples in the Bible where we can use these things as an inspiration, you might say, to worship God or are we just fooling ourselves in the fact that they really are idols? Because when you look at the Bible, you’re not going to find an example of a stained-glass window, or a crucifix or a mother Mary, or whatever it may be. I think you find just the opposite.

You find items throughout the Bible that people tried to use as a representation of God that actually got in the way of their relationship with God. So whether it was the Ark of the Covenant, whether it was the Temple itself—that became a big image and an idol in a sense, that well, as long as we have the Temple or as long as we have the Ark of the Covenant then God must be with us and we must be worshipping God correctly. But that was false! And it actually led the people into captivity. And so I think the biblical example is just the opposite of using items to somehow help us worship God. It’s not biblical.

[Gary] Let’s face it, there’s a whole lot more subtle form of idolatry, which Paul specifically talks about. And that is all of us have to be careful that we don’t make anything, place it between us and God, and it becomes an idol. So how do we deal with this covetousness as idolatry? How do we deal with that?

[Darris] Well, we first recognize that the modern things that we do covet—status, success, money, five cars, a bigger house, whatever it is, is our modern forms of idolatry. And they then become those matters which we form a deeper identity and relationship with then we do with God, and they get in the way because they become the things that give us worth and identity.

[Gary] I hope you’ve been challenged to look further into what I’ve covered on today’s program. To help you do this we have a free Bible study aid titled: The Ten Commandments. This valuable booklet will help you better understand the standards and values God revealed long ago at Mount Sinai which have important meaning for all those who want to worship Him in Spirit and truth.

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God declared in the second of the Ten Commandments: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God...” (Exodus 20:4-5).

The Second Commandment focuses our attitude of worship. Are you living in humble admiration before the Almighty God? Or are you worshipping Him in a way that is actually offensive to Him? Is He the One who determines the priorities of your life? If not, then you will replace Him with religious idols or the idolatry of money, things and status.

Who is God seeking to worship Him? Jesus said that the time has come “when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks” (John 4:23).

Join us next week on Beyond Today as we continue to discover the gospel of the Kingdom. We also invite you to join us in praying, “Thy Kingdom come.” For Beyond Today I’m Gary Petty. Thanks for watching.

[Announcer] For the free literature offered on today’s program, go online to BeyondToday.tv. Please join us again next week on Beyond Today!

Comments

  • Skip Miller
    Thanks Felix, You have a good point . (I think I said something like that when I said, "strongly felt personal belief. ") We all do want to be "THE" authority. But we can't really; can we? So, I have chosen to allow God's Word, as recorded (in a multitude of various translations) to be MY authority. Yes, Martin Luther had a couple of easily seen mistaken ideas (e.g. antisemitism) but some of what he said and taught made sense. As fellow humans let's continue to search God's Word daily for Truth. I believe Psalm 119: 160 and ask our Father in heaven daily to help me understand better.
  • david from tx
    With all due respect, God Himself commands in Deuteronomy 12:32 "Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it." The Bible is the only Scripture inspired by God. While it is true that most denominations have replaced one set of man-made traditions for another set, the teaching that "everything has to be from the Bible" is true. UCG's policy on this is "Scripture interprets Scripture", which, along with and above all else being guided by God's Spirit, greatly protects against such things. I pray this has been helpful to you and anyone else who reads this.
  • lilac
    First, please show me in the bible the verse that said "everything has to be from bible" Second, the UCG's policy "Scripture interprets Scripture" is the teaching that is not in the bible.
  • david from tx
    With all due respect Felix, I already showed you in my previous comment Deuteronomy 12:32 - "Whatever I [God] command you [Scripture, see 2 Timothy 3:16-17], be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it." From this verse, we see God commands us not to add or take away from His Word, the Holy Bible. We also see Jesus chastising the Pharisees in Matthew 15:9, saying (quoting from Isaiah), "And in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men", further cementing God's command against man-made additions to His Word.
  • lilac
    The teaching 'Scriptures interpret Scriptures' is a man made teaching, it is not in the bible. This teaching exist because someone interpreted the bible. The same apply to the teaching "Everything has to be written in the bible(sola scriptura)"
  • ryan shaw
    "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? ... For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little.” - Isaiah 28:9,10. That says precept must be upon precept. So you must use scripture to interpret scripture.
  • ryan shaw
    This is from the bible in Isaiah 28 9,10 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? ... For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little.” That says precept MUST be upon precept. and line upon line, that literally means you interpret the scriptures with the scriptures and you get a bit of understanding as you do this.
  • Lena VanAusdle
    Hi Felix, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, but the Bible is the word of God (we must agree on this basic point to have a fruitful conversation). There is a purpose for God's word, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16). You say that the Bible doesn't say "sola scriptura." But it also never tells us that any other words can lead us to eternal life; just those that Jesus Christ utilized and those that Jesus Christ spoke or inspired to be spoken (John 6:66-69), "From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more. Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away? But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”"
  • karen a barber
    Lena, I appreciate this...."But it also never tells us that any other words can lead us to eternal life".... IMHO: This was a perfect answer in a nut shell for me....after all we are only here for the gift of eternal life... gift indeed but we must ACCEPT it on its conditions... Hold Fast & Enduring till the end! But first we must know what that truly entails.
  • karen a barber
    I need to be clear...We are not only called for salvation but to change from the world's way to God's character. Its a conversion process. So yes it's a gift with conditions...Repent & be baptized then receive HS and going on to perfection... work on changing. Its also in servitude of the Church & its work God is doing. I see so many comments that reflect traditional Christianity thinking Christ does it all for us. When I reread my comment I could not help but hear Mr. Armstrong in Mystery of the ages, "I cannot repeat too emphatically that those being called into the Church now are not being called merely and only for salvation. Nevertheless, in order that they may be kings and priests, as actual God Beings aiding Christ in the salvation of the world, those in the Church themselves must be genuinely converted. I cannot make this truth too plain. I fear many, even in the Church, do not fully comprehend just what is a real conversion."
  • Ivan Veller
    Felix, When I read Revelation 22:19, I am sobered by the admonition to me personally that "if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away that person’s share in the tree of life" (NRSVCE). There are many such exhortations to be found in Scripture: https://www.ucg.org/sermons/sola-scriptura As a church, we devote our lives to sincerely endeavoring to be led by God's guidance in a spirit of humility.
  • Ivan Veller
    Felix, "We believe that Scripture, both the Old and the New Testament, is God’s revelation, and His complete, expressed will to humanity. Scripture is inspired in thought and word, infallible in the original writings, is the supreme and final authority in faith and in life, and is the foundation of all truth (2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20-21; John 10:35; John 17:17)": https://www.ucg.org/fundamental-beliefs-of-the-united-church-of-god We believe that "[in our] Christian life, it is essential that [our] foundational understanding and thinking be based on the word of God, not the words of man about God's word": https://www.ucg.org/sermons/the-word-of-god-and-the-word-of-man We believe we must instead "[let] the Bible interpret itself... [and that if] something seems confusing or even contradictory, [we are to] let clear biblical passages shed light on those [we] find difficult to understand ... [using] the context and other scriptures to find the correct meaning": https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/how-to-understand-the-bible/keys-to-understanding-the-bible For example, see: https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/who-is-god/the-personal-nature-of-god
  • lilac
    But which verse in the bible that said "everything has to be from bible"...?
  • Julie09
    Felix W, Exodus 20:3, Thou shalt have no other gods before me. The minute we decide to interrupt, add to or take away, with what we want or to use a doctrine that is manmade (not from the Bible) we have decided to put ourselves or a manmade doctrine in place of God. Who are we to challenge God, with manmade doctrines or our own will? Also, Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the Lord doth man live. With this verse we know that everything we need is supplied by God in His Word, the Bible. There is NO follow up verse that says, 'Oh, and outside of My Word, feel free to use whatever else you'd like, no problem, I'm open to it'. We have no need for another source because God provides everything in His Word. Simplistically beautiful.
  • lilac
    The teaching of "Sola Scriptura" is manmade since it is not in the bible. Why did you follow the this teaching?
  • lauferrodney
    Thank you so much for your program today. We always learn so much and appreciate the time and energy you put into sharing God's Word, and spreading the Gospel and the 10 Commandments. A job well done! :)
  • KARS
    Remember Jesus mentioned that there would be no more temple before it left to the heavens of heavens at the Mount of Olives. So there is no need for the lost ark or Levites for the animal sacrifices. Without a temple there work is done.
  • homer
    Mr. Petty in his comments above about Mary the mother of Jesus and the belief she was conceived without inherited, original sin from Adam is the Roman Catholic doctrine of the immaculate conception. Scripture does not teach this. But it does tell us through the words of the angel Gabriel that all generations [of Christians] would call her "Blessed." Because she is the mother of the eternal Son of God--very God himself according to John, chapter one . She has always been venerated (honored) by orthodox Christians as the Mother of God the Son. Herbert W. Armstrong did not believe that Jesus Christ was fully God and fully man when He walked on earth. So someone having the Armstrong theology could not understand this. The author after quoting Exodus comes to the conclusion that use of images of anything in worship is idolatry. Exodus forbids the worship of false gods, for there is and always will be only one, true God. The problem with Petty's reading is that Israel was commanded to make an image of the cherubim on the ark of the covenant. Surely Mr. Petty would not teach that was idolatry. Roman and Orthodox Christians honor Mary as Mother of God, the Son, Christ.
  • Skip Miller
    Hello Bill, I'd like to ask you to please show us in context that "Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong did not believe that Jesus was fully God and fully man when He walked on earth." I think I heard him say just the opposite: Jesus was fully God and man. But as for the idolatry issue, the veneration of Mary by Roman Catholics (and possibly others) goes far beyond calling her "blessed." God did command Moses (and the Israelites) to build the Ark of the Covenant (with Cherubim) but He did not command them to worship IT or them. (Maybe that is one reason the Ark disappeared.) Idolatry can also be thinking too highly of our own ideas.
  • twocents
    Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong in the Dec '82 Good News magazine: Since God the Father created all things by Jesus Christ (Eph 3:9), and since all things, including man, were made by Jesus Christ, He is our Maker and therefore God...For we read: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made" (Jn 1:1-3). "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father" (v14, RSV). Also, "He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world knew him not" (v10, RSV)....Since eternal life is the GIFT of God (Jn 3:16), only a GOD possessing immortality could give it. If Jesus were only human, we could not receive eternal life through Him and He could not be our Savior....But, as God "the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself." And: "God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life (Jn 5:26, I Jn 5:11-12).
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