This Bible study focuses primarily on Daniel 8 and 11 -- 2300 Days Prophecy and Abomination of Desolation, continued
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So I mentioned we're going to... well, last week you'll remember we talked about the abomination of desolation. We did talk about Antiochus of Piphanes the fourth last time, and talked about how he came into Jerusalem back in 167 BC, and pretty much did everything in his power to decimate the Jewish religion and anyone who believed in it. And you'll remember, you know, that we talked about Jesus Christ and the abomination, what he said in Matthew 24 15, about the abomination of desolation that will occur at the end of time as well. And he refers back to this abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet. And Mr. Murray brought up the 2300 days prophecy in Daniel 8, and we touched on that a little bit last week. And as I prepared the study, you know, this week, I went back to look at that 2300 days prophecy, and specifically Daniel 8, so that I was refamiliarizing myself with it. So I kind of want to start there today, because it will help us see just the magnitude of what the abomination of desolation is. We will see, we will talk about the daily sacrifices that were stopped back then in 167 or 168 BC. We'll talk about the New Testament application of all this as we look ahead in Matthew 24 15, and then in the book of Revelation of what goes on there. And I think it'll give us a pretty good picture of what God is trying to show us of what life will be like back then. He does tell us that he will let us know what's happening and what to expect. We won't know all the details, but we know what to expect because he puts it in this Bible, and his word is absolutely sure. So let's look in Daniel 8.
In Daniel 8, we will see the remarkable detail of the one Alexander the Great. We will see where secular history even talks about exactly what the Bible says, how he died an early death, and his kingdom was pretty much separated between other four other leaders, one of whom, after a couple hundred years, was Antiochus Bephy and the Bible. So let's just read through chapter 8, part of it, and then I'm going to put up some screens. We'll talk about Antiochus again because he's such a major figure in not only 167 BC and what happened back then, but a type of what will happen at the end time. So in chapter 8 of Daniel verse 1, it says, So 548 BC is when Daniel's vision is happening and when he is recording it.
Now the ram is I don't have a picture of a ram, but you know these two horns that are there it. Actually, that pictures are the Median Persian Empire.
We'll talk about the Roman Empire that has existed down through ages. We have the Ram. Secular history will even bear this out. Where it says that one was higher than the other of these horns, history will show that the Persian Empire, even though it was the Medo-Persian Empire, Persia always had the preeminence. They were the stronger of the two. When people looked at the Medo-Persian Empire, they were the notable kings. They were the ones who made the advances. They were the power of the two. Even the Bible has that detail. The Medes and Persians, it's the Persians. It's the Persians who are the preeminence in that alliance or that dual empire that was there. We have this world-ruling empire that has replaced Babylon. The Medes and Persians. Verse 4 says, I saw the Ram, this empire, pushing westward, northward, and southward, sinking right into where they are in the Middle East and the directions that they're pushing in, their warlike, they're conquering out of their territory, so that no animal could withstand him, nor was there any that could deliver from his hand, but he did according to his will and became great. He became the next world-ruling empire. So, Babylon, the next one in that statue, the Medes and Persians, he was the power. The power was given by God, remember, in all these. He was the one who predicted all this and prophesied all of it, and as God who gives the power, the Medes and Persians did their thing, they became great. Then Daniel writes in verse 5, as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west across the surface of the whole earth without touching the ground, and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. Now, this goat is going to challenge the ram. So, we have this ram who is kind of incontroable for a while, but now this goat appears on the scene, and this is Alexander the Great. We've all heard of Alexander the Great. You'll remember that we even talked about Alexander the Great back at the time of the prophecy in Tyre. While Nebuchadnezzar began the assault on Tyre, and that whole prophecy that spanned a few hundred years as God miraculously took the Tyre off of the mainland and into this island, and the whole thing that you'll remember from that, that it was Alexander the Great who completed that prophecy, and that was in 331 BC. So, the commentaries will tell you that Alexander the Great and the Greek Empire began challenging the Medo-Persian Empire in around 334 BC. So, they timed verse 5 here at 334 BC. Remember, Daniel is seeing the vision at 548 BC. This occurred in 334 BC, some 200 years into the future, as God is giving Daniel this vision. So, Alexander the Great comes on the earth. He takes the world by storm. You probably remember him in history books. You probably remember him in movies and stuff like that. He was a notable figure. Died early. I think it was at age 33, if I remember correctly. Died early, but he was a force. He was a force, and he became the third ruling empire on earth at that time. If you go back to that, Daniel, he was a fortitude statue. So, in verse 6 then, it says, Then he, the goat, Alexander, came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing beside the river, and ran in him with furious power. And I saw him confronting the ram.
He was moved. He was moved with rage against him. He attacked the ram. He broke his two horns. He conquered that empire. There was no power in the ram to withstand him, but he cast him down to the ground and trampled him, and there was no one that could deliver the ram from his hand.
Again, earlier on in Daniel, remember, I think it's Daniel 1 or Daniel 2 that says, All the power is on earth. It's God who raises up the kings, and it's God who deposes the kings. And so we see Nebuchadnezzar in Babylon, displaced by the Medes and Persians, and Darius and Cyrus, and that group, and now Greece and Alexander, and then later the Roman Empire, which we won't get in tonight. But now we have this third ruling empire here, and it's Alexander the Great. In verse 8, then, it talks about how great he becomes, that therefore the male goat grew very great, but when he became strong, the large horn was broken. He was the singular leader at that point. But when he became great, and he was great, he was notable, even when he was very young, that large horn was broken. And in place of it, four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven. So you have Alexander the Great. He's a great force on earth, cut down, died, and I think it was at only age 33. And then in his place, he had no heirs that he could just pass it on to his son. But then there was this conflict that begins where there's a power vacuum, right? And so you have four notable ones, four other powers that come from him that are battling for that throne. So what I'm going to do is put up now a document here that talks about those four, and I'll leave this up here for a while because we're gonna see the Bible in this as well.
As we go along in these scriptures, I'm looking at my to see if there's anyone who needs to be admitted here. So we see Alexander the Great, and this chart is going to just take us down through the leaders, if you will, down to Antiochus IV, who brought the abomination of desolation to Jerusalem. So this is from secular history. This isn't from our commentary. It went online to research this, use some AI to gather some of the history together, and then condense it into this. But you can see after the death of Alexander the Great, he died in 323 BC. They had these wars, and out of it, out of it, you have... hold on just a minute.
Yeah, I don't know how to admit these people now, but we'll...
There we go. Okay, so out of that, history says there were four main Hellenistic—that's great—four main Hellenistic kingdoms that emerged, each ruled by one of Alexander's generals or the descendants. That history, from mainstream history, correlates directly to what it says in Daniel 8 verse 8. So you have these four kings, if you will, these four leaders, if you will, and Jerusalem is at the center of it, right?
Jerusalem is there. It's one of those that has been there. It's been kind of like someone wants to control Jerusalem all the time, if you will. And so you remember hearing about the Ptolemies and the Seleucids. They were the two main ones, and Jerusalem's control bounced back and forth between those. And then you'll see in the middle of there, you have the four main leaders that succeeded from Alexander the Great—Ptolemy, Soter, Seleucus, Lysimachus, and Cassander. So then you have the rule over Jerusalem down there in the middle of the chart.
It says, following the Battle of Ipsos, this is where everything was finally determined, that Jerusalem fell under the Battle of the Ptolemy Rains. And those are the ones who ruled Jerusalem from 305 down to 204, really 200 BC. Ptolemy, Philadelphus, Eurygusus, and Philippator. And then there was a war in 200 BC. You see that Antiochus III, not the Antiochus IV, who brought on the Abomination of Desolation, but Antiochus III of the Seleucid Empire, defeated the Ptolemy forces, and they gained control of Jerusalem.
So you have a shift there between two of the leaders. Ptolemy before, and as long as the Ptolemaic leaders had it, they kind of left Jerusalem alone. They could worship the way they wanted to. Life could go on. It was a generally peaceful time for Jerusalem. They were just content to have them part of the empire and weren't looking to force anything among them. But when the Seleucids came on board, they wanted everything in their domain to be more Greek style. They didn't like the Jewish in the various different cultures.
They were more about everyone under their domain should believe the same thing, do the same thing. It was pretty easy in the early years there, under the first Seleucid kings. But then as you have them down, do you have—finally on the second page here, let me bring it up—we come down to we have Antiochus Epiphanes.
He became leader, ruler, controller, or whatever general over Jerusalem in 175 BC. He was the one who really began to try to Hellenize. That means implement Greek culture, Greek beliefs, Greek gods, and everything into society at that time. But in 175 BC, it wasn't that bad. He began to try to indoctrinate him, but he didn't really do that much. He had other things going on. He had other battles to fight. He had a couple of campaigns against Egypt during that time that he was dealing with.
But he did come in in 169 BC and saw the wealth of the temple and decided he was going to pillage the temple. So if we go back to Daniel 8, we see that here in verse 9. We see the little horn, this Antiochus, right? Antiochus IV. Out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the glorious land. That's, of course, Jerusalem and Judah. And it came up to the host of heaven, and it cast down some of the hosts and some of the stars of the ground and trampled them.
Well, if we look, you know, I mean, that's Daniel 8. That's where he comes in. Now, in the book of Maccabees, we talked about that last week. They do give some detail about some of the things that led up to the abomination of desolation. In the book of 1 Maccabees, it talks about this invasion of the invasion or the plundering of the temple.
It says there in 1 Maccabees 1 verses 20 to 24, it says, well, I'll just summarize it here, including the, well, it says, after Antiochus had defeated Egypt in the year 169 BC, he returned and went up to Israel and Jerusalem with a strong army. He entered the sanctuary in his arrogance and took the golden altar, the lampstand for the light and all of its utensils, and the offering table, and the libation bowls, the sensors of gold, the curtain, the crowns, and the gold decoration on the front of the temple.
He stripped it all off. He took the silver and the gold and the precious vessels. He took also the hidden treasures which he found, taking them all he departed to his own country.
Now that is exactly what it says in Daniel 11. If you, we fast forward, we have this abomination of desolation that's referred to here in Daniel 11 as well. Daniel 11, you will remember, is quite a detailed history of these four kings in the Middle East. And the Middle East, in prophecy, booklet that the church has, goes really pretty much verse by verse in chapter 11 and goes through secular history to show how it is such a detailed, such a detailed part of history here. And let me see who, okay, I've met some people here, okay? So in Daniel 11 verse 28, we were in Daniel 11 a little bit last week, but let's look at again. It says, for ships from Cyprus shall come against him.
Okay, so what happens here, we're going to see in a minute, Antiochus is in these battles with Egypt and whatever. And so he comes in, he pillages the temple, he goes back out to war, then something happens in Jerusalem that irritates him. The battle with Egypt doesn't go well, so he's really angry. And that's when he comes in and he really, really begins to persecute the Jews and try to wipe out everything they believe. For ships from Cyprus shall come against him. Therefore, he shall be grieved and return in rage against the Holy Covenant and do damage. So he shall return and shall regard for those who forsake the Holy Covenant. Well, it does talk about in here. Okay, I'm sorry, I was reading verse 28 is what I wanted. I'll come back to 30 a minute. While returning to his land with great riches, his heart shall be moved against the Holy Covenant, so he shall do damage and return to his own land. So this is the part of Antiochus that we're just covered here of him taking, you know, going against everything here and ravaging the temple. As I mentioned, he goes back out there, as we just read in verse 30. He goes back against Egypt and that doesn't go well. So he is grieved, as it says in verse 30, and he returns in rage against the Holy Covenant. And that's exactly what we see him do in 168 BC. If I can move this thing here a little bit. So after his second Egyptian campaign, well, during his early days, what he had done, he interfered in the operation of the temple. He appointed, you'll see there at the top of your screen, he appointed the high priests in the temple. And they were both politicians, if you will. I mean, they were, you know, the history says that they were both vying for it. They were paying money to get the title of high priest and everything like that.
First it was Jason, and then this Menelaus was appointed after Jason because history shows that he outbid, I guess, more money Antiochus could get. That's how he allowed or how he appointed the temple high priest at that time. So there was this conflict between Menelaus and Jason all the time. And so there was this rumor, apparently, that Antiochus had died. And that, it says there, and when you look at the 168 BC comment there, rumors of Antiochus's death led the deposed high priest Jason to attempt to retake Jerusalem from Menelaus. Antiochus, upon hearing of this internal Jewish conflict, interpreted it as a full-scale rebellion against his authority, and he returned to Jerusalem with great fury. Just as it says in Daniel 11, verse 30, and in Daniel 8, verse 10, if we go back there and look at that. In Daniel 8, verse 10, says, He grew up to the host of heaven. That means he wanted to become like God. He was going to attack God. Everything was going to be his way. He had no regard for God. It grew up to the host of heaven, and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground and trampled them. He exalted himself as high as the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of God's sanctuary was cast down. So, you know, I have the word stars there, circled, because you remember in Daniel 12, the last chapter, part of the prophecy in Daniel 12, verse 3, says, Those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament, and those who turn many to righteousness like the stars forever and ever. So that apparently is a reference to that, that he was coming back to trample, trample God's people. 2 Maccabees 5 records that in some detail. I think it's just worth seeing what is there, what he did. It says, When the king heard of this conflict between these two high priests, when the king heard of this, he supposed that Judea was in revolt. So he marched from Egypt in a rage and took Jerusalem by storm. He ordered his soldiers to cut down without mercy everyone they met and kill those who took refuge in their houses. There was a massacre of young and old, a slaughter of women and children, a butchery of virgins and infants.
Kind of reminds you a little bit of the October 7th attack in Hamish, right? The cruelty that's there. Just kill anything in sight because he was so mad against the Jewish religion and so mad against Judea. In the three days of fighting, 80,000 were destroyed, 40,000 by the sword, and as many were sold into slavery. So when he came back into Jerusalem, he was angry and he set everything apart. Anything that was Jewish, he hated and he stopped it in any way he could. When we read last week in Daniel 8 about how, you know, it would you would have to be a five flattery. He would glorify, make rich, make wealthy, praise those who would turn from Judaism into the Greek gods, into anything that would go against God. He would praise them and the people who would hold on to, as we look in 167 BC, that wanted to keep the Sabbath. Anyone that was circumcised or wanted their babies circumcised. Temple sacrifices. Everything, everything Jewish was determined to be unlawful and you were put to death or persecuted if you wanted to believe any of those things. So the abomination of desolation, while it is one event where he set up, they say, probably a statue of Zeus in the temple, in the temple of God, it was this whole event that went on there. It was a tremendously awful time in Jewish history and so when it finally emerged, that's why they had Hanukkah when the Maccabees finally revolted and Antiochus died. But you can see the anger that was there, the hatred, the absolute hatred that he had for anything Jewish, anything of God, just like the hatred that Satan has for anything of God. That's where that hatred comes from. That's what happens. And so the people had a tremendous persecution and in the midst of all of this, you know, in the midst of all this, we have this notable stopping of the daily sacrifices. And down in verse, let me see, let's just keep on reading here. Let's go down to verse 12.
And there it says, Daniel 8 now, because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices. He hated it, but he hated everything Jewish. The sacrifices were just one of those things. And he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered.
And then Daniel says, I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the certain one who was speaking, how long will the vision be concerning the daily sacrifices and the transgression of desolation of the giving of both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled underfoot? And he said to me, for 2,300 days, then the sanctuary shall be cleansed. And so, you have this, this what's translated here, 2,300 days. But like your Bible probably shows and mine shows, the literal translation of days in the 2,300 is 2,300 evening mornings. Now, you'll remember in Old Testament time, there was the morning sacrifices, and burnt offerings, and the evening ones. They were twice the day sacrifices that went on.
So, when it says morning evenings, 2,300 sacrifices were stopped. So, most commentaries and the church believes that that's really 1,150 days. 1,150 days, this persecution came upon the Jews during that time. 1,150 days at two sacrifices a day. And so, you look at that, and we know that the abomination of desolation, the actual altar that was established in the Temple of God, that probably had Zeus or another pagan god erected there, whoever Antiochus wanted to put there, and began offering and sacrificing unclean animals in the temple at that time. We have the exact date of that, right? The Maccabees records it. I think it's somewhere around our calendar year, December 14th, or something like that. That's notable because it happened, but that isn't just where the sacrifices stopped. The sacrifices likely stopped, well, most certainly stopped before then, because it takes a while to erect an altar. It takes a while to do all those things, and so, when we look at this 1,150 days, if we go down to chapter, or verse 26, of the same chapter, it says, and the vision of the evenings and mornings. That's what we're talking about, right? The 2,300. The vision of the evenings and mornings. This is where Daniel is, well, you know what? Yeah, you know what? Because the Bible does interpret itself. Let's back up to verse 19 here, because we know what the Bible—it interprets itself in so many places. Let's look at verse 19 with some of the things that we've looked at here in the imagery with the ram and the goat, and he says, again, there is someone who comes to Daniel, Gabriel, to make the vision known to him. Verse 19, and he said, look, I'm making known to you what shall happen in the latter time of the Ignatian nation, for at the appointed time the end shall be. The ram which you saw, having the two horns, they are the kings of Median Persia. So secular history has it, right? But the Bible says it. And the male goat is the kingdom of Greece. The large horn is between his eyes, is the first king. That's, of course, Alexander the Great. As for the broken horn and the four that stood up in its place, four kingdoms shall arise out of that nation, but not with its power, not with Alexander's power, but with theirs. So if we drop down to verse 25, before we leave Daniel 8, I want to just point something out. Through his cunning, it says, one thing that Satan is is cunning. Now, when you find this intrigue like you see in Daniel 8, when you see persecution, when you look at the beast's power at the end of the age, there's this cunning, this charm, this whatever you want to call it, that kind of entrances people who don't have God's Holy Spirit. They're led astray into that. There's a manipulation, there's a thing, a twisting of things that make it seem right is not. Satan was very cunning when he was able to get Eve to take that tree of the forbidden fruit. Through his cunning, he shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule. Well, we did read that people who turned against the Jewish faith, they prospered. He rewarded them. And he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. He shall even rise against the prince of princes, but he shall be broken without human means. That means he wasn't going to be conquered by an army. Indeed, down there at the death, you see that how Antiochus died, it was from painful diseases. He wasn't killed by man. He wasn't killed in battle. He was killed by painful diseases, not by human means.
If we look at the beast's power at the end of the age, the abomination of desolation that's going to occur that Jesus Christ talks about, where the daily sacrifices are taken away, where everything about God, everything about the Bible, everything becomes the enemy of the state and the enemy of that prophet that rules, that raised the back of the beast at that time, just like Antiochus hated everything Jewish, they will hate everything about God. That beast won't be killed by human means either. It will be the returning Jesus Christ. It will be the returning Jesus Christ that unseats him. So, prophecy there that happens with both of these figures that we're talking about. And then in verse 26 it says, "...in the vision of the evenings and mornings," and that's the 2300, "...which was told is true. Therefore seal up the vision, for it refers to many days in the future." Remember, this was written in 548 BC. It didn't occur until 168, 167, 164 BC, so 400 years into the future. So, the vision of the evenings and mornings wasn't for the end time. It was for many days into the future, and then it's had its fulfillment. But this chapter also does talk about the vision for the end time. If we go back to... I didn't write that verse down here. Yeah, verse 17. So, as Daniel is seeing these 2,300 evening mornings, Daniel says in verse 15, he's looking for meaning of it, right? Gabriel comes in verse 17, so, "...he came near where I stood, and when he came I was afraid, as you and I would be if an angel or a messenger from God came to visit us. As he was speaking with me..." I'm sorry. "...when he came near where I stood, and when he came I was afraid, and I fell on my face. But he said to me, understand, Son of Man, that the revision refers to the time of the end." So, there is one that's going to be for later days, the 2,300 evening mornings, but this vision of the abomination of what happens to the people of God has a latter meaning as well. We see that again in verses 23 and 24. And so, it says, "...at the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors, a king shall arise, having fierce futures, who understands sinister schemes." All the things you can do to kind of get things done your way and go against God and whatever. So, we won't put much time on there, but chapter 8 seems to show there is this future days, 168, 167 BC fulfillment, and a time for the latter days as well. So, let me stop there. Then we're going to go back to the 1,150 days. I see one hand, Tracey. Then we'll move on to the 1,150 days and kind of nail that here a little bit. You got a comment, Tracey?
Yes, I hope you can ignore the air conditioner background. I can't do anything about it.
So, if I were a lot of numbers and facts for my little head, I can't follow it fast enough, but if I were to summarize, tell me if I'm getting this right. So, there was King the Great, Alexander the Great, he died, broke up into four sons, one of those sons of any others, and he updated the Israelites. He conquered the Ram, which was Medes and Persia, then I think was two of the greats that came out of Alexander the Great, and then he attacked Israel, and in the end took all the spoils and built his own altar and kept the spoils. Is that where we're at? We're at, yeah, mostly right. Alexander didn't have any sons. Four generals did Antiochus 300 years, 200 years after Alexander the Great. He comes in, he ransacks the temple, takes away all the gold, but also tries everything he can to demolish and decimate the Jewish religion, and that's where we are. Well, if you just make it so, keep it up. Thank you. Very good. Hey, Bill, quick question on chapter 8 verse 25. It talks about the Prince of Princes. Is that a reference to Jesus Christ, I assume? That's exactly who it is, yes. All right, thank you. Bill, Hillebrenner. Yeah, this is the 2000 National Geographic, and it shows about that battle in which Alexander overtakes Darius. It's got a lot of detail about it. It's like the whole 2000, March 2000 National Geographic, talks about how his father prepared Alexander for Jesus' great work. Now, I thought it was really interesting that notable horn stuck right there, and it ran right in there. They show in his battle that he had these pipes, and you can see that, these 16-foot long spears, and his men were just ran right through Darius's line and went straight at Darius. And Darius's army was scattered over a mile, and just a big long line, and he just Christ right through on line. And the whole thing is about Alexander the Great. The 2000, if you can get ahold of the 2000 National Geographic, I mean, it's the Bible. The Bible in modern words. Yep, very good.
Okay, where was I going to go next? I was going to go to the other 150 days. Let me pull up something here on that. So, you know, he says the 1150 days are sure, the Gabriel says there in verse 26. And so we should spend a little bit of time on that, because when God gives numbers, everything he says happens exactly the way he should. So exactly the way he says it will. So we do know, we do know the day that the temple was cleared and the sacrifices began again in Jerusalem after the Maccabean Revolt, after Antiochus's death, and after the temple was cleansed, after the temple was cleansed, as it says it will be in Daniel 11.
We know the exact day, because it's in the book of Maccabees, when the sacrifices began. We do not. It is not recorded anywhere. What exact day the sacrifices were stopped by Antiochus? We do know the day that the abomination of desolation, the statue, the temple, and the pagan, the unclean meats, were beginning to be sacrificed in the temple. But we don't know the day he actually came in and absolutely stopped the sacrifices.
So to go backwards and look at this, to see where is this 1150 days? What is it? And we look, and I kind of used, not even kind of used, I used something from Maccabees, but asked A.I., can you calculate back or take us back to where did the sacrifices, when were they stopped, since we don't seem to have a name on it or a date on it at all?
And so I'm just going to put this up here and just kind of summarize it here. So they go back and they work from the Temple Regan dedication, which was the Tillony 5th of Kislev. Again, that was December 14th. Actually, the very same day that the abomination of desolation actually was erected there in the temple, the actual placement of that. So 164 BC. So you go back 150 days using 365 days years, and they will acknowledge there's one or two days differences in there when you look at the Jewish calendar and whatever else like that.
So we go back approximately three years and two months. So after it does all that, not giving them even anything of what it is, it says, this calculation points to an event where the sacrifices stop in late 168 BC or early 167 BC.
Not exactly the date that the abomination of desolation, that specific event with the erection of the temple of the statue, the pagan temple, but the sacrifices would have stopped before that.
And then they go through this, you know, what events aligned with this time frame, and it recounts the stuff that we've already talked about. And Tychus comes in, he stops all the Jewish laws. He actually Josephus records the books of the law, whatever scrolls he could find. He burned. He did everything he could to just completely erase God from society. Right? So the temple, so the sacrifices would have begun right in that time.
And so they go back to when he came back, when he's really mad after the second Egyptian campaign, and it would be that the 1150 days would coincide with that time frame when he came back from that second part, that second campaign against Egypt, when he was enraged about what was going on in the conflict between the two high priest wannabes in Jerusalem. We don't know the exact date, but we do know God.
And we know that there were 2,300 sacrifices that were not done during that time. Those sacrifices were mixed, and when you go, they were missed. And when you go back and just look at the time frame of when all this happened, and when the Tychus was outlawing everything Jewish to the time that the sacrifices began again, it is around that 1150 days. So that prophecy is sure, just as Gabriel told Daniel. Right? But that was the stopping of the sacrifices in Daniel 11. Let's look at Daniel 12 because we have this future stopping of the dailies, whatever they are. Marta, I see your hand up. I might have missed you before. Sorry, but if you had a question, go ahead, or a comment, go ahead.
Your microphone's off, Marta. Okay, here goes. Yes, for clarification, I want to understand where it says in verse 17, understand, O Son of Man, for at the time of the end shall be the vision. Then verse 24 says, it mentions the holy people. Now, does that refer to Ephraim and Manasseh in the future, and actually for today, which would be Britain and USA?
You know, when God talks about the holy people, he talks about us, right? The called out ones, the first fruits, the people in his church, but he is also talking about physical Israel as well. Yes. So it's in duality, though. It's in duality, yes. Both physical Israel and spiritual Israel. And spiritual, which would be us today. Okay, thank you. And remember, in Revelation 17 and Revelation 13, it says that that beast power at that time, they will wage war against the saints, the people that believe in God and keep his commandments and everything like that. So we know that's us. We know it'll also be the Jewish people who are keeping those as well.
So yes, thank you. Okay, so let's go to Daniel 12 then.
And we have these 1335 days.
Someone here. Yeah, Daniel 12 verse 9.
Yeah, Daniel 12 verse 9. The angel says to Daniel, Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
So as we're living closer to the time of the end, we will understand some of these things that they wouldn't have understood back during those times. Many shall be purified. Last week we talked about this. This would be firstfruits, right? Many shall be purified, made white, and refined.
That would be those who have this hope in God, this hope in the kingdom, this hope in the resurrection, this hope in eternal life. The bride being the bride of Christ, the firstfruits, they'll be purified. They will be made whites. They will be refined in fire because we learn things. We learn things through suffering. We learn through obedience. We learn the things that we go through in life to become like God. They'll do all these things, but the wicked— remember, wicked doesn't mean people like Adolf Hitler and whatever. He's wicked, but it's anyone who is morally at fault, not strong, not dedicated to the truth like the firstfruits would be. But the wicked shall do wickedly, and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand. And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away—now, remember, this is the time of the end. This, this, you know, what happened back in 167 BC is not applied to here, except that it is a forerunner of what will happen at the end of the time. And from the time that the daily is taken away, the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Now, that 1,290 days, our literal days, is what, is what the Church teaches and what we believe. You'll remember from our study of the millennial temple that one of the differences that we saw between the Ezekiel 40 to 48 temple and the Old Testament temple was that in the Old Testament temple you had two sacrifices. You had morning and evening sacrifices, as in the 2300 evening mornings we just discussed, but in the millennial temple there was just one sacrifice, one morning sacrifice that the prince was responsible for seeing happened every day. So we have this difference. So we have 1,290 days from when the sacrifices, whatever those are, at the end of time, that is 1,290 days until the return of Jesus Christ when those sacrifices will begin again however God has those, however God has that set up. So we have 1,150 days that we just talked about that has been fulfilled at the time of Antiochus. We saw that the entire thing that we might call the abomination of desolation, yes it was capped, if you will, with this statue and the sacrifice of unclean animals, but the entire three-year period was a total time of persecution, tribulation, that was one of the worst periods of Jewish history, so much so that when the Maccabees, you know, when they were able to retake Jerusalem, they still celebrated with Hanukkah at that time. So we see that very same thing at the end of time when you look back, we don't have to spend, you know, Revelation 13 very well, you know that there's a great tribulation that is coming and that the beast power at that time will reign for three and a half years, 1,260 days. There's a lot that's going on during those 1,260 days. You have the tribulation going on, as it says in Daniel, for time, times, and a half a time. You have the two witnesses in Revelation 11. They are witnessing to the people of God that they're talking about, they're talking about who the real power is, but what God's gospel is for 1,260 days. You have a whole lot of things happening in that 1,260 days, and 30 days before that 1,260 days begin, sacrifices are stopped.
Sacrifices are stopped, or dailies are stopped, and I know, I know, we've talked about it. The word sacrifices is in italics. We do know that they were actual literal sacrifices that were stopped during the time of Antiochus. Probably will be, because we see as we look at what's going on in Israel today and the Red Heifer situation and all the preparations that have been made already. Reports are that all the temple instruments are ready, they're fashioned exactly toward what the Bible says. All they need to do is build an altar, and they begin those sacrifices once they have this Red Heifer ceremony. So whether it happens or not, only God knows, but certainly the stage is set that it could happen. In the midst of all this, we have Christ, who references the abomination of desolation that we talked about last time. And so in verse 15 of Matthew 24, and I know I'm going fast, that's why it's good you have this on tape if you want to go back and listen to it. But I get pretty excited about this stuff when you see it all come together here. Therefore, it says in verse 15, therefore when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place, whoever reads, let him understand, then let them, those who are in Judea, flee to the mountains. And basically it says don't look back. When that time comes, just go. Just go to where God wants you to be. So when you see this abomination of desolation and you see the gathering of the armies around Jerusalem, as he talks about in Luke 21, he says keep your eyes open. You know, watch world events. Know what's going on around you. See what's happening and how that relates to Bible prophecy because these things don't happen. Well, sometimes they happen literally overnight. Other times it takes them years even to fulfill. But we can see the tendency as we allow God, the development as we let God, God's Spirit lead us.
So, you know, he says when you see this abomination of desolation, remembering that what Antiochus did was get rid of everything. Everything about God, he outlawed everything. He wanted to eliminate it from earth. And so when you see the armies surrounding Jerusalem, today the visible people of God are the Jews. Right? They are Judah. They're over there in Israel. They are making noises about the red heifers. They are making noises about a third temple being built. They are making noises about the return of Jesus Christ. So is the Church of God, but their voices are louder today. And they do have their Middle Eastern neighbors who are a little bit a little bit spooked by the return of Jesus Christ and what is going on over there. And so they don't want the Word of God. And certainly the beast power that we read about in Revelation 13, when that beast power comes about, and you have the little beast writing the big beast, he is going to be there and he is against God. Remember Revelation 13 says he puts himself in place of God, just like Antiochus did. He doesn't want any of the Bible. He doesn't regard any of the gods of his fathers, it tells us in Daniel 11, the latter verses. He doesn't regard anything that women have to say to him. He's not influenced by anything except his own arrogance and pride. He sees him as God and it's going to be his way. And so we have this religion that's going to be anti-God, called the Antichrist, right? The false prophet who deceives the world with his cunning ways, his charm, his deceit that he says that makes everyone believe he really is, you know, the vicar of God. And so you have this happening all around you in the world, but the true people of God will know exactly what's going on. Because we have the Spirit of God, because he does warn us, and because we stay close to God, and because we yield ourselves to him, so that we're not deceived. Because the deceit will be very powerful, the Bible tells us, you know, because even Christ himself says it will be so powerful, the deceit that's there in the cunning, that even the very elect could be deceived if we don't stay close to God. If we allow ourselves to compromise or get too enamored with the world or just believe things are a-okay and we're okay and don't realize that we are miserable and weak and we need God and we need to be more like him. Now we need to be that that Philadelphian Spirit that it talks about in Revelation 13, that we endure to the end, that we persevere of all things, but we stay close to God. And don't become like the Laodicea and the other time group that's the other end time group that's there that just thinks they're rich, increased, filled with goods, and all those things. Christ says don't become enamored with that. Become, stay close to him, and even closer. And so we have this abomination of desolation. That's the same thing at the end time. The Word of God will be wiped out. That will be what the what that will be, what the people that will be what the beast power wants to have happen. In the midst of all this, let's go back to Revelation 11. You know, we have the two witnesses.
We have the two witnesses who are prophesying. They are they are fed by God's Holy Spirit.
In fact, when you look in Zachariah, it's kind of like notable when it talks about how they're filled with God's Holy Spirit, and of course they speak what God wants them to speak. I mean, I said it until Revelation, yeah, Revelation 11.
Because here we have this temple. You know, we know the temple was desecrated at the time of Antiochus, and we know that, you know, we have these daily sacrifices that are taken away, and we do have these scriptures in the Bible that talk about a temple. And I, you know, I'm not going to say one way or the other. I want us to think about the Bible a little bit, though. We do know in the Old Testament, the temple is where God dwelt. It was a physical building that God dwelt in. When Moses built the tabernacle in the wilderness exactly to God's specifications, built exactly the way he said, he filled that tabernacle with his glory.
When Solomon built the temple and built it exactly to the specifications that God gave him, when it was built and completed and dedicated to God, he filled it with his glory. We know in the New Testament, you know, that the the standard is given to us that God doesn't dwell in temples made with hands. He dwells in us. And so we have Paul, you know, making the comments like in Colossians 1, 27, Christ in us, the hope of glory.
We have Stephen, as he is about to be stoned, you know, saying in Acts 7 around verses 48, 49, 50, telling the Sanhedrin and the people that are about to stone him, God doesn't dwell in temples made with hands. We have Christ even indicating that in, I think it's in Luke where he talks about this temple could be torn down in three days, but it will be built back in three days, referring to himself. He's the temple of God, not a physical building. So in the New Testament, we see this temple is a spiritual temple.
In the Old Testament, it's not. And so, you know, we do have Revelation 11 here that talks about this temple. But I want us, and certainly we can say, you know, look, in Revelation 11 verse 1, I was given, John says, a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, those who worship there, but leave out the court.
Leave out the court, but leave out the court which is outside the temple and don't measure it. It's been given to the Gentiles. They will tread it under foot for 42 months. And then he talks about the two witnesses that are there. So we could look at that and say, yes, you know, it appears that the Jews, it won't be the millennial temple that they will build, but they, you know, I guess it's a possibility that they could.
But if we look at the temple that's here, and look at the words that God uses, we could see a spiritual temple here that he is talking about. The Jews may start sacrifices. Whether they have a temple built or not, I don't know. We can all have our own opinion on that. God will show us as time goes on. But he says, you know, rise and measure the temple of God. Well, whatever the Jews might build isn't the temple of God.
He won't fill it with His glory. He should be filling us with His Holy Spirit as we yield to Him. As we build the temple, He wants to build in us individually and collectively to the exact specifications, more and more as each day, month, year goes by. And as we become more and more like Christ, He will fill us with His Holy Spirit.
And He will return to that. So if we stop for a moment, they're just, I'm not saying this is it. I'm just saying, let's just think. The temple of God. If we are the temple of God, and He says, rise and measure it, right? Rise and measure it. Well, there are the indications in the Bible where God has told other people, measure the people of God. What? Who are they? Why are they measuring up to the fullness and stature of Jesus Christ, as it says in Ephesians 4? That is part of the measure that He measures us with.
Are we measuring up to the fullness and stature of Jesus Christ, as He says there? If we go to, if we go back to Amos, even in the Old Testament, right after, right after the book of Joel, which is right after Hosea and Daniel, in Amos 8, we see Him making this measurement again that is in a spiritual way, not a literal, not a literal building instrument. Not, yeah, Amos 7. I said, I think I said 7, but it's, or 8, but it's Amos 7. And verses 7 and 8. And then it says, Thus He showed me, this is, you know, Amos being showed, Behold, the Lord stood on a wall, the Lord stood on a wall, made with a plumb line. That's one of those things when you're building a wall. I guess I'm not a contractor. Someone here could probably explain it better than me that you drop it down to see that the wall is built straight.
Is it exactly built straight? Behold, the Lord stood on a wall, made with a plumb line, with a plumb line in His hand, and He said to me, Amos, what do you see? And I said, a plumb line. And He said, Behold, I'm setting a plumb line in the midst of my people Israel. I will not pass by them anymore. The high places of Isaac shall be desolate, and the sanctuaries of Israel shall be laid waste. I will rise with the sword against the house of Jeroboam.
So, He's not talking about a literal, I'm standing on a physical wall. It's like, I've measured my people. I'm not going to stay there with them anymore. I will not pass by them anymore. They are not measuring up to what I had expected them to be. In Isaiah, we go back a couple books here, Isaiah 28. And verse 17.
Therefore, verse 16, Thus says the Lord God, He talks about these stones, precious cornerstones. Verse 17, I will make justice the measuring line, and righteousness the plummet, and then the halt, the hail, will sweep away the refuge of lies, etc., etc. I'll make justice the measuring line. That's how I'll measure the people.
And then in Zechariah, the second to last book in the Old Testament, Zechariah 4, in verse 10.
Yeah, Zechariah 4 verse 10. Who has despised the day of small things?
Kind of a notable verse there. Who has despised the day of small things? For these seven rejoiced the seed, the plumb line, and the hand of Zerubbabel, they are the eyes of the Lord, which scan to and fro throughout the entire, or through the whole, earth.
Are the people measuring up to the standards that God has set? We may as well turn to Ephesians so we can kind of see that verse I reference in Ephesians 4.
Just so we have everything here.
Ephesians 4, 13.
Again, as God is talking about His people, the ones who He hopes in this day and age will become firstfruits, right? Firstfruits who will be there standing with Christ, who will become the bride of Christ. In verse 13 of Ephesians 4, so we all come to the unity.
That's the goal, right? Unity means not just getting along with one another. Unity means we believe the same things. We're focused on the same things. We're at one with God, with our hearts and minds, as well as our words, our actions. Everything about us aligns with what God has us to do. We're measuring up to what He wants us to be, till we all come to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.
So, possibility thinking, and I can see we're not going to get as far to be there. So, in Revelation 1, when God says to the angel at that temple of God at that time, rise and measure, is He talking about a physical building, or is He talking about, where are my people?
Where are they at this time of the end?
Are they there?
And then, work with the inner court. Work with the inner court.
But the world, whatever it is, whatever God means, I really don't know what all that means in the 42 months about the outer court, but is that what He's saying? I wonder if there's throw that out there as a possibility for us to think about of what God is doing now. So, let me, I think that's, we've been going about an hour here. Let me finish there and open it up for questions, comments, and whatever. So, I actually had another screen I was going to put up to, and I didn't get that up today either. So, sorry about that.
Okay. Mr. Brady? Yeah.
Um, I think that Bill Brad ended up asking about Isaiah.
Okay.
But if he, if he ends up going under sermons, not sermons series, sermons, and puts your name in and goes down to June 15th, he's going to find that that's when it starts with first diverse and it goes for a zillion weeks. Oh, did you hear that, Bill?
Not now. That was for Bill Brad. For Bill Brad. Okay.
Yes, I heard that. Okay.
But we'll double check and make sure they're all there too. They're, they're, I'm pretty sure they have it all there because I just quickly checked that out and I think that there were a million in there. Okay, very good. Thank you, Karen. Thank you.
Let's, let's go to Ken Murray first.
Thank you, Mr. Shaby. This is the best I've heard that you describe the verses you've been through. So thank you very much for what you've covered.
It's excellent.
In regard to Revelation 11 verses 1 and 2, yes, you make a very good point that, you know, the Church of God is the temple.
And of course, we individually are temples within that.
We're getting some interference from somebody here.
That's a very good point. It's interesting that in Daniel 8 that you started out with in Daniel 8 verses 13 to 14, it's a fascinating conversation between Jesus Christ and the Father. And Jesus Christ is very tactfully asking the Father, how long will it be from the time the sacrifices begin in the end time until the temple is cleansed, i.e. I return. It's a very tactful conversation between Jesus Christ and the Father. And as you said, the Father responds with 2300 days, and then shall the temple be cleansed. In other words, without going into it all, Jesus Christ, you will return and you will cleanse the temple because we know Jesus Christ cleansed the temple twice in his physical ministry. He will be coming back to physically cleanse the temple. And when he comes back, he won't have to cleanse the church or us as the temple because we will be with Jesus Christ when he returns. We will be on those white horses in Revelation 19, riding with Christ down to Jerusalem. So he's not coming to cleanse the temple of the church or us.
He's coming to cleanse a literal physical temple and his presence. And of course, we've already gone through in Ezekiel 43, where he'll be coming through the east gate.
And in that, now getting to Revelation 11 verses 1 and 2, I'll be brief here, is that there's the other part of the verse you didn't quite read there. It says, then I was given a read like a measuring rod, and the angel stood saying, Rise and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship there, but leave the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles, and they'll tread the city under foot 42 months. So that's another three and a half years. And that refers to the time that the beast and the false prophet will rule from Jerusalem and control everything. So it's really not referring to a spiritual temple. It is literally referring to that time when the temple sacrifices will be stopped at the 1290 days.
They'll have started at the 2300 days, and they will stop at the 1290-day mark. And then from that time, as you said, Christ said, Fleets to the place of safety, and then from 1260 days begins the terrible time of the Great Tribulation. So it's really literally referring to a physical temple, and that Christ will return to. He will cleanse, and the glory of Christ will then appear in that temple, which will basically be the temple main building and the altar, because the very first holy day we're going to keep in the millennium is going to be the day of atonement, which will picture, of course, the putting away of the goat of departure, as usual. Satan will have been put away. People will see this actually have literally happened. Satan will have been put away with the demons in the bottomless pit. Also, secondly, they will see the goat literally sacrificed, which will remind them of our Redeemer, who is now with us and how Christ laid down his life for us. And of course, the third thing that we do on a day of fasting, a day of fasting, is to repent. So now people will be invited to come to repent of their sins and turn to the true God.
That's just a couple of brief points, anyway, I'd just like to make.
Well, and I won't disagree with you, because only God knows. The issue I would have with a physical temple is it takes a lot of time to build a physical temple, right? And it won't be the millennial temple, whatever the Jews build over there.
I just think we need to kind of... God knows exactly what he means here. We'll just have to wait and see.
If I could just briefly say, too, the beast, as we know in Thessalonians, sits in the temple proclaiming himself to be God. So when he does stop the sacrifices, he sits in the temple proclaiming himself to be God. So we have a number of other verses, too, but I don't want to take the time here. But there are aspects which show that there will be an aspect of the temple, probably the main temple building and the altar, built prior to Christ's return. And perhaps even when the beast comes, he might even demolish the dome of the rock and also the Alaskan mosque. He might even demolish that at that point of time.
Okay, let me see. We got three built. We got Bill. Let's do Bill Wilson, then we'll come to you, Bill Bruce.
Okay. Hi, Mr. Rook, Mr. Shaby and everybody.
When you were talking in Ephesians 4, I looked over at Ephesians 3, and Ephesians 3 verse 17 and 18, that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith, that you being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height to know the love of Christ, which was past knowledge. So that kind of measuring might be what you're talking about, the spiritual measuring of these peoples.
Right? Possibly? Yes. Yeah. Because he will measure us, right? He's watching to see where we are, and we're to be growing and measuring to the fullness of Christ. So, okay. Okay, Bill Bruce. Hello, darling. Yeah.
Okay. So when you were talking about Jews getting ready to build the Third Temple and getting ready for the return of Christ, now that actually is the first coming for them, right? You got your shoes on? Yes. I think so, yeah. Let me see. We've got someone. Okay. Found it. Okay, go ahead, Bill.
Okay, you were talking about the first coming of Christ? Yeah. What I was saying was, when you were talking about the Jews getting ready, the ready to return, you were talking about the Jews getting ready, the red heifer building of the Temple. Now, to the Jews, that would be the first coming of Christ, correct? Correct, yes. That's what they're preparing for.
Right. Now, as far as the two witnesses, I just wanted to clarify something I'm not sure about.
Do they go all over the world, or are they just in Jerusalem?
I don't know for sure. I think they're just staying in one place, but I think the whole world sees them, right? Because it says the whole world rejoices when they are finally killed. So, probably with internet, and they're creating a lot of controversy, so it's probably that way that the world is hearing what they're saying.
So, their preaching will be just in Jerusalem. I've never thought of it any other way. I've never thought of it any other way. So, I think... No, that is correct. That is correct.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And Marcella.
Good evening. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Okay, great. Yeah, I have always believed that it was a physical temple as well, and if you look, you know, it says measure the temple of God, but then in the latter part of verse 2, it says they will tread the holy city underfoot for 42 months. So, I mean, we've never been considered a holy city where we've been considered a temple, and you know, and then the outer courts are left to the Gentiles, and the...
Yeah, and the witnesses are... I would think the witnesses are witnessing there as well.
Yeah, and of course, they will be in Jerusalem. We all know that, yeah, it will be because Christ says when the armies... you see the armies surrounding Jerusalem, that's where they will trample that city underfoot for 42 months. Yeah. Yeah, but my thought was that it is also a physical temple. Yeah, that's just my thought. Thanks.
We heard from Bill. How about Alice and Christian?
Yeah, hi. Good evening, Mr. Shaby.
Can you hear me? We can hear you, yes.
Yeah, hi. This is going to be really quick. Those documents that you had up early... I had a little trouble getting connected. How can I find that? I'm fairly new to your Bible study. Christian and I, we joined the church like a couple of years ago, so this is very interesting to us. So how can I find those documents that you had? If I was trying to take notes, but I couldn't write...
If you send me an email, I'll send them to you. They're nowhere. I just put them together over the last week. Okay, awesome. Thank you so much, Mr. Shaby. Okay, and how about Bill Bratt and then Bill Hillibranter? I personally think there will be a temple, and here's a couple things to think about. All the utensils, the clothing, and a lot of stuff has already been made. What if the temple was prefabbed and then these big army helicopters just flew it into place? The way I understand it, when the other temples were built, the sound of a hammer and stuff wasn't heard. A lot of it was already pre-made, too. So anyway, something to think about. A prefabbed temple?
They might have something in mind over there in Israel. I don't know. They have all the instruments. I don't know what their plans are for the temple itself. Let me see. We've got a number of people. Go ahead, Bill Hillibranter, then John Flink. Yeah, just with Bill, what he had said, it does say that the two witnesses died in Jerusalem, which would leave the fact that they could have been preaching for three years before. Just a point. I really like that fullness and stature of Christ until we measure up to that. I think that there's a lot to be said for the spiritual temple, where the Scripture says who temple you are. I really appreciated the point you brought out over the last couple of times about everything Jewish was going to be destroyed. I would like to make a point that I first read years ago in Encyclopedia Britannica under calendar, and it said, there is no reason for a seven-day week to exist except that Moses. I'm done. Okay, let me see. When we say John, John Flink, hi.
We can't hear you, John.
Tell you what, John, we can't hear you. Let me go to Bill Bruce, and then we'll come back to you, John.
Am I mistaken? I thought I heard before that the temple, the millennial temple in Ezekiel, the way it's described, would not fit on the temple mount the way it's set up right now at all because it's too big. That's correct. That's correct, yeah. The Jews couldn't build. They wouldn't be able to build to the extent that the millennial temple is, so that'll be something that happens in the millennium. They might put up another structure that's there that they call the temple, whatever they have in mind. Are you ready, John? If not, who do we have? We have Tracy, go ahead.
My question is this. It's a little bit different than the temple questions.
When Israelites flee to the mountains, is that talking about all of God's people? And if not, where are the rest of God's people during that time? What are we doing? I think that's one of the questions we asked last week. Who are those people that are fleeing to the mountains? We talked about that another time. Okay, I'm sorry. I missed it. That's okay.
I don't know. I'll go ahead, Ken, and then John. I saw your hands. Whenever you get your mic, we're working, John. Just go ahead and start talking, and we'll let you join in.
It's interesting that in Revelation 11 verses 1 and 2 also ties in with Ezekiel chapter 40 verse 3, which is the early prophecy about that. How he took me there, and behold, there was a man whose appearance was like the appearance of bronze, and he had a line of flax and a measuring rod in his hand, and he stood in the gateway. So there's an earlier prophecy about what we read in Revelation 11 verses 1 and 2. But it's about the physical temple, and because, as we mentioned, the people of God will have already been judged. As we know from 1 Peter 4, 17, we'll have already been judged. We'll have already gone up into the first resurrection, like at the time of Christ's return, and so they will have already been measured. So it's really referring to that physical temple at the end of John. And of course, yes, it's going to take a number of years to build.
But also, the thing is, it's only really the temple building and the altar. It's not the rest of the court, which will of course be expanded in the millennium, as you've quite rightly pointed out in the other chapters of Ezekiel. So it's really only that main building and the altar that is there at Christ's return.
Rick Shabi was ordained an elder in 2000, and relocated to northern Florida in 2004. He attended Ambassador College and graduated from Indiana University with a Bachelor of Science in Business, with a major in Accounting. After enjoying a rewarding career in corporate and local hospital finance and administration, he became a pastor in January 2011. Since then, he and his wife Deborah have served in the Orlando and Jacksonville, Florida, churches. Rick served as the Treasurer for the United Church of God from 2013–2022, and was President from May 2022 to April 2025.