God, as God Is God

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Mainstream Christianity believes in a future for mankind that includes being made into spirit and sharing in the "divine nature" (2 Peter 1:4), both of which are biblical beliefs, but due to added constructs originating from human reasoning instead of scripture, truth gets mixed with fiction in the details of their conclusions. This, on its face, can create a false concept of our current and future relationship with God, and, at its core, degrades the powerful promises to mankind as revealed in the scripture.
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God the Father
Jesus Christ
the Word
Son of God
God's Holy Spirit
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PRESENTER'S NOTES

1. Describe how you understand modern Christianity to perceive our future...
     - Trinity
     - Share Divine Nature
    
2. Grew up being taught we will become, "God As God Is God".
     - What was taught?
     - What the New Order claimed was taught

We will not become God, as God is God if using the generic term, "god", to represent the name of the Father or of Jesus the Son. But, God has promised us we will be God as God is God if using the generic term, "god", to represent the family chemistry, makeup, and behavior of God.

As near as I can interpret, mainstream Christianity believes we will be made into spirit beings and that we will be partakers of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4). All of this sounds good and is good. The only problem is that this is not all that God promises to do, and mainstream Christianity appears to deny this promise (mix good and evil). In their interpretation, God will always be a unique entity defined as the Trinity, and that the saved will be like God and even be called God (if we reference some of their writings including the Eucharist), but that the designation is only relevant in terms of this "divine nature".

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.

In this wonderful revelation of scripture are two important points.

1. Children
2. Like Him (see Him as He is)

Romans 8: 16 The Spirit (Itself) bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.
18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

How to illustrate this relationship? How about scientific classification?

Gingko biloba (dioecious) (not monoecious or hermaphrodite)
Homo sapiens
Deus deusis (for illustration – not our job to give God a name God has not Himself revealed to us)

Referring back to 1 John 3 and Romans 8, relying of fact…

God's promises are true. God cannot lie (Hebrews 6:18; Titus 1:2), Lying being a type of sin, nor can God be tempted by any sin (James 1:13)

And we find that the person born of God cannot sin, either.

1 John 3:9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

This expresses an inheritance of a perfect, infallible godly quality,

Exodus 9: 13 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Rise early in the morning and stand before Pharaoh, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God of the Hebrews: “Let My people go, that they may serve Me, 14 for at this time I will send all My plagues to your very heart, and on your servants and on your people, that you may know that there is NONE LIKE ME in all the earth. –Reference 1 John 3:2

-Subject chosen for seminar (Sept. 10) (pray)

So, no, we are not God as God is God, BECAUSE we will not become the Father or the Son when we are changed. These persons have lived in eternity without sin, and we have not. But, neither are they a closed system as a Trinity defines. Instead, we who have chosen the way are now the children of God by God’s grace and imparting of the Holy Spirit, and we will become God as God is God as members of God's family, each of us a unique person in that family, perfect and without sin by God’s handiwork.

What Christian can disbelieve God, and still say they follow Him? What person can accept an inferior definition of his or her purpose when the word of God is understood to have better promises?

This understanding of the nature of God is not a construct of human pride. Nothing about this belief suggests in any way that we have the capability to make ourselves into gods. Instead, our belief in the scriptures reveals only the love of God in action as shown in God's supreme purpose for man, which is for us to become God as God is God (Deus deusis?); members of the God family.

Kelly M Irvin

Kelly Irvin, who attends in Northwest Arkansas, is a horticulturist by trade, and spent ten years in fruit and vegetable breeding research before becoming a stay-at-home dad who now owns and maintains a flower bulb nursery for retail sales. Mr. Irvin believes he expresses thoughts and ideas best through writing and is especially interested in using this resource of communication to share the value of God's way with others.

In 1987, Mr. Irvin received an Associate of Arts degree in Theology at Ambassador College in Big Sandy, TX, after which he went on to complete a Bachelor of Science degree in Horticulture from Texas A&M University (1990). While serving full-time in vegetable breeding research at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, he then completed via the slow track a Master of Science degree in Horticulture (1999).