Clean and Unclean Foods

Alright, anybody have any thoughts with regards to Daniel 1 and that study? Did anything come to mind during that reading of the Scripture? Anything that hit your mind or you hadn't thought about before? It's a pretty interesting... Yes, Howard?

What are the statements that are in the seat of the prophet of the Holy Spirit? So just like your sermon was, what is the seat being placed on you by those adventurous beings who have been in trouble? Yeah, Babylon was a pretty bad place. There was lots of...you saw that it mentioned wine, delicacies. You wonder what those delicacies were. Many times, we refer to delicacies these days as the shrimp cocktails and those kind of things. You wonder if maybe those were the delicacies to tempt them. If Satan can get us to compromise just in the littlest bit, he's very patient and he knows if we compromise on something small that he can keep working on us. Thank you, Howard. What else? What other thoughts? If any of you young people have a thought, you know, this particular topic, it is a gateway into other conversations. There are certain foundational topics that can be a gateway into more conversations about truth. You know, suffering is one. If someone is suffering, you can lead them to an understanding about God. Why does God allow suffering? That can lead into other things. Actually, cleaning unclean meats is that same type of topic. It can lead you, and we're going to talk about this a little bit, into bigger, fuller concepts of cleaning and uncleaning how God views that. Yes, John? Boy, that's so true. Whenever we have a trial like this, you can imagine what Daniel and his friends are going through. What it does is, when something hits us, it causes our eyes to go from God, it brings our eyes down to whatever situation, whatever is in front of us, whatever trial is in front of us. It's so important to lift our eyes again as you're going through it, because Satan wants us to focus on this, and then, innately, we try to solve it ourselves.

So there's a pulling away from God at the very moment that we need him the most. It's a very odd thing, but it happens to all of us. Yes, Sierra? All of the things that are physically bad for you, but also looking at it from a spiritual perspective, if we are not diligent to stay spiritually healthy and disciplined to have the kind of spiritual diet that we should have that God prescribes, our spiritual health will also deteriorate. So I think that's an important lesson from this story as well. Yeah, perfect point. Even clean and unclean meat, as physical as that is and tangible, it teaches us something greater about God, bigger concepts. Thank you for that comment. Let's start at the very beginning. Go to Genesis 7. Again, if anything comes to mind, it doesn't have to go with the flow. It could just be a thought. We'd love to hear from you. It really spurs more conversations. Genesis 7. This is a good place to start because here we have really the first mention of clean and unclean in this concept. Genesis 7 is where the story of God is telling Noah to build an ark and how to build it and all the dimensions and so forth. He says in Genesis 7, verse 2, very familiar scripture, of course, look what he says, "'You shall take with you seven each of every clean animal, and a male and female, two each of animals that are unclean, a male and his female.'" So here we have this concept of clean and unclean introduced to us there.

Maybe one thing to notice right off the bat here, amongst other things, is God doesn't have to tell Noah, you notice, which animals are clean and unclean. He doesn't have to go into, now this is what Noah knew.

This understanding, this teaching, was taught from the very beginning. That's why Daniel knew. That's why his three friends knew. They knew clean and unclean. Very clear to them. And the fact that Noah knew didn't have to be explained to them, that's important because some will say, why is this important? They'll argue that clean and unclean meats were specifically given to the Levites. They will say to the Israelites, it's an old covenant thing. It's been done away with. But we know all kinds of aspects of the old covenant are still in application today. And the argument that it was just given to the Levites or the Israelites, just part of the old covenant, that collapses, that argument collapses with... Because the clean and unclean meats predates the old covenant, just as we saw there. Just like what else? The Sabbath. The Sabbath predates. See, so there's certain things that were always continual and have always been just reiterated in the covenant, what we call the old covenant. They were just restated or reiterated. But there were certain things... Sabbath is one that predated the old covenant. And clean and unclean meats. That concept and what this is, it predated as well. So the Sabbath and clean and unclean meats have that in common.

And it's also important to note, as we're talking about this time, back from the beginning of time, when you look through the concepts of the Old Testament, you will see that if something is clean in terms of a spiritual aspect, then it's chosen by God and it's been selected by God for a purpose. You see that concept. Something that's deemed clean spiritually is chosen by God and selected for a purpose of God. Anything that's unclean, it's referred to as being rejected by God for a specific purpose. So you have this concept, a bigger concept like Sierra spoke about. And then you find in the book of Genesis, when people who were approaching God in the right way, they approached God and you would see them with making sacrifices. And they needed a substitute for themselves. And they approached God with the substitute sacrifice. And what you see is them approaching with an animal sacrifice. And in every case, in the book of Genesis, where we see the sacrifice made by someone who was striving for God, the sacrifice is made with an animal that's listed as a clean animal. So we know from Genesis that clean animals had to do with what was an acceptable sacrifice with God. We're seeing something bigger here. Animals set as part specifically by God as clean. An acceptable sacrifice to them. Other animals were not accepted by God and they were designated by Him as unclean. So you see a bigger concept here that this is pointing to.

So certain animals were set apart by God to be sacrificed to them. Other animals were not. And that's why clean and unclean meets. It has to do with health. We will talk about that today. But it also has to do with someone else. It has to do with this concept of holiness. God sets aside things for His purpose. Set apart. We know these concepts. Clean and unclean.

So we see that even from the very beginning. Any thoughts on that? So it's the clean and unclean law. We can see it's from the beginning. No one knew it. Daniel and his friends were very familiar with it.

And it pointed to this, gave a concept or understanding about clean and unclean.

So if we turn then to Leviticus chapter 11. Leviticus chapter 11. It's one of the chapters, really the famous chapter, that explains the difference between a clean animal and an unclean animal. Leviticus 11.

Leviticus 11 verse 1. Very clear. This explains how to tell the difference between a clean animal and an unclean animal. God wants us to be clear on these things. Leviticus 11 verse 1. Now the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, speak to the children of Israel, saying, These are the animals which you may eat among all the animals on the earth.

And he goes through and tells certain animals that are made to be eaten and others that are made not to be eaten. And you can go through it. Verse 42 speaks of cloven. They have to divide the cloven hooves. They have to chew the cud. And so if you look at this chart, the back of the chart is a pretty good one, I thought. It's really hard to read. I couldn't lighten it up. But you'll see, for example, the third one down of the land. Leviticus 11, 3 through 8. Is the hoof split? Yes. We follow the arrow. Does it chew cud? Yes. Then it's clean to eat. No. Then it's unclean to eat. And you see that of the air? Leviticus 11, 13 through 19. Of the insects? Does anybody like to eat insects? Oh, Jason, I knew you would raise your hand. We'll talk later. I know it's summer clean, but... Four walking legs? Yes. Jointed jumping legs? Yes or no? You can see, if you're ever interested in eating some insects? I'll judge you, but you can do it. Of the waters? Leviticus 11, 9 through 12. Does it have fins? Yes or no? Does it have scales? Yes or no? If you follow the yes, it's clean and good to eat. Unclean, not food. So you see a picture of an octopus there. So you can get pretty adventurous. God doesn't limit us. If you turn it over, you see all the clean animals and insects and land animals and water animals. Camel? Clean or unclean? Clean. Oh, no. No, okay, yes, camel's unclean. Giraffe. Giraffe. Clean. That's what I meant to say. Don't go eat a camel. Mr. Levitt better say it's clean. No. Camel's not clean. I meant to say giraffe because I was thinking of the neck. You know, that neck would feed a lot of people, maybe back in the old times.

Cricket? You could probably, after this, go find one out there in the yard. And again, we'll talk about you, but you can do it. Has anybody eaten a cricket or anything unusual? No, Jason? They have chocolate-covered ones, and they have lollipop ones. I've seen insects in lollipop, and you can see them through it. So, you have that. Elk, buffalo.

You don't see some of these in the sacrificial examples in the Bible, but that might be because the Middle East didn't have these animals at that time. Antelope, deer, moose, they're all clean. Giraffe? I've seen a giraffe chew the cut. That's why I thought of that one.

So, this goes through and explains the criteria you can use. It mentions a whole lot of animals by name. Ravens, ostrich, owls, seagulls, and hawks. You're not supposed to eat those kinds of birds. It talks about what kind of fish you're able to eat. I want you to notice verses 41-42. Let's look at verses 41-42. It goes through all this list. Verse 41-42 says, And every creeping thing that creeps on the earth shall be an abomination. Think of these words that are being used here. Abomination. And it shall not be eaten. Whatever crawls on its belly, whatever goes on its all fours, whatever has feet among all creeping things that creep on the earth, you shall not eat, for they are an abomination. That word abomination there, it literally means disgusting, something horrible. It should be appalled by you and I. And then it goes right into verses 43-45. Look at verse 43-45. This is the connection to something bigger. You shall not make yourselves, verse 43, abominable with any creeping thing that creeps, nor shall you make yourself unclean with them, lest you be defiled by them. That word, there's Daniel's word. For I am the Lord your God, you shall therefore consecrate yourself, and you shall be holy, for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creeping thing that creeps on the earth, you just can't defile yourself with any creeping thing. For I am the Lord who brings you up out of the land of Egypt to be your God. You shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.

So it's interesting, you know, the punctuation here is not, you shall not eat it because it's not good for you. Now, we know that that's the case. We're going to go into a little bit of health things, I believe.

You're not going to, you know, there's no doctor around that would prescribe a armadillo steak. You know, we know the different issues with diseases and things. We understand that. Modern science knows that.

But ultimately, why were they told not to eat them?

Because God said, I'm telling you not to, they're disgusting. That's basically what he says. It's disgusting. And if you want to be holy, don't eat it. I know this speaks to pleasing God. This speaks to something much bigger than just the physical, you know, harm it can do.

You want to be holy, don't eat those disgusting things. And you see that concept associated with even the food we put in our mouths. You know, God wants us to be... He's calling us out, calling us out to be pure, to be clean, spiritually, and physically. Everything about us.

Any thoughts on that?

Oh yes, Jason. Sorry. I just find it interesting that in Leviticus 11, he had to make a list for the Israelites, because this just came to mind, like, you know, the three-year program for Daniel. Well, you think about it, Israel was in Egypt for how many years? And they had to grow probably accustomed to what they were served to, that he had to tell them what not to eat and what to eat, because they probably were in the customs of Egypt. And because you mentioned earlier that even at the beginning of time, and Noah, that clean and clean was mentioned and sacrificed, but I just find it interesting that it had to be like, this is what you do. This is not what you... There's no question about it. And then just a side note, I did eat a cricket once.

I forgive you, and Lily had a question. I know what it means on clean food, but I have a question. I can stop to eat on clean food, because God says, be holy, because I am holy. But what about if my heart, I know it's not clean, because my heart, all my human beings have contamination from my heart. So for me, it had to be together, because I can stop to eat on clean food, and I can stop to contaminate. In one way, what about my heart? Can be holy just because I stopped to eat on clean food, but my heart is in the same place. Can I be holy? That's my question. Oh, I love that. Yeah, and the ditch that we can find ourselves fall into, I think many times when we're speaking about things that we do, it turns into just something we do. It's a routine, and it has this God's way, and our love for Him hasn't hit our hearts. So the Pharisees were perfect, almost perfect at all the Ten Commandments, right? Perfect. But their heart wasn't there. So I could be perfect in not eating these things, but if my heart's not there. And in many ways, Jesus Christ came, and He says, now, you're doing these things. I'm going to take this an extra step. I'm going to write this law on your heart, in your flesh. It's just going to be a part of you.

And that's really important, and thank you, Lily. I've learned a lot from you with regards to that. I'll take a little side note. I'll take a little side street. You know, over the Dallas weekend, we were talking to a lot of young people. There were 60-some people, young people gathered there for the regional weekend. And I wondered aloud. I don't know how we get on this topic, but I wondered this aloud. I said, what if we asked these young people, why do they do what they do? Why are they here on a Saturday? Why are they making sacrifices to not go to the ballgame? Why are they making sacrifices to not eat clean, unclean meals? Why are they doing the things? I wonder what they would say.

And I wonder how many would say, well, it's because I love God. You know, God showed me in love, and He's told me how He wants me to love Him back. He says, this is how I want you to live your life. This is how you'll show me you love me. If you love me, keep these commandments. I wonder how many of those young people would have that answer on the tip of their tongue. And I worry that they don't. We haven't talked about the heart enough, I think.

Yeah, my parents. Or it's just something you do. You keep the commandments. And then the minute something comes, they're putting it to a different... They're taking out of their family structure. The minute something happens, if they didn't build their foundation on love, and that's the motivation, it'll crumble. They'll absorb into society. But the minute you realize, a father gave an elder brother to me, and my elder brother died for me, and I want to live my life honoring His name. You can imagine that. Imagine if you had a brother or sister that died for you.

Wouldn't you live your life? I want to honor their name. Well, that's what we're doing. We're honoring God by making sacrifices and adhering our life to the way He wants us to live.

We want to be holy because He was holy, and He gave His life for us. Perfect. Thank you for making that. I should have started with that. And really, everything we do in this life needs to begin with that. And I want to get that message, not only to the young people, but to the old people, too. Why do you do what you do? It's love.

You're responding to love. Period. Point blank. If you're doing this for any other reason, you're going to fail. You're going to be on shaky ground. We saw what happened at the split, the worldwide split. They were just doing it. They hadn't hit their heart. They didn't know why they were doing it. And immediately, when they changed the doctrine back in 1995, almost that same day, so many went out and ordered a pork chop.

I hear those stories. Why? Did it hit your heart? Didn't you understand why? Why would you? You want to be holy. You want to do holy things. You want to be holy like He is holy. Don't ever forget why we do these things. Don't ever forget why we're talking these things. We want to be a good apologist, good defenders of this, and speak in those terms. God's told us what food to eat and not to eat. We love Him, so we do what He asks us to do.

Let's turn to Deuteronomy 14, verse 2, and then we'll go on to Deuteronomy 14, verse 2. This kind of puts a punctuation on what Lily just described. Deuteronomy 14, verse 2. So you're called to be holy people, set apart. Daniel knew it. It has to do with everything. Spiritually, what you eat, what you think, everything. The minute you wake up, all these things are on your mind. Look at Deuteronomy 14, verse 2.

It says, For you are a holy people to the Lord your God. And the Lord has chosen you to be a people for Himself, a special treasure above all the peoples on the face of the earth. It doesn't make us better, but we have this calling now. So He says, you are a holy people, special people. He tells the church the same thing today. And look, Mary, next verse, verse 3. You shall not eat any detestable thing. No, it's just food.

No, it speaks to the heart. It speaks to Daniel's heart. He wasn't going to do it. They would have told Daniel, this is stupid, Daniel. This is really stupid what you're doing. You and your friends are doing. So are we willing to be distinct in the culture? And because you're a holy people, I made these things to be eaten and things not to be eaten. Because you're set apart to me. You eat the food that is set apart by me. You eat the food that is set apart by me. It's that simple.

Any thoughts on that? Now, on a physical plane, unclean food, unclean animals and those things, they are pretty disgusting. If you start reading all of the things just from a physical standpoint, not even talking about any other aspect, it's pretty disgusting.

That's why God uses such harsh words, one of the reasons. Pigs, besides being gluttons, swine are also extremely filthy animals. They will eat garbage, feces and even decaying flesh. Someone told me a story in London, which I will not repeat. It was pretty gross. And all that is eaten usually becomes part of the pig's own flesh. Aside from the diseases routinely carried by swine, pork is also very fatty meat. The toxins in pork are held especially in the fat, which is not isolated from the meat, as is the case with lean beef.

But rather, it's dispersed throughout the meat. Dr. Russell is supporting evidence on his view. I don't have his credentials, but it isn't faint of heart. He says, in the United States, three of the six most common food-borne parasitic diseases of humans are associated with pork consumption. It has long been recognized also that the meat of shellfish, shrimp, crabs, lobsters are especially dangerous. Many illnesses include instant paralysis, and devastate some people every day as a result of eating shellfish.

The largest calera outbreak in the United States occurred in August of 1986. It was a calera outbreak. What did the stricken people eat? The incriminating meals were found to include in the rice noodles with shrimp, pork, mussel soup, pig blood, collagenated with vinegar, and salty brine shrimp with mixed vegetables. Happy eating! Yes, who is hungry? See, that's why I had you all eat before. They say, you know, you've heard, you're sweating like a pig?

Well, you're actually not, because pigs don't sweat. So you might say, I smell like a pig, but you won't sweat like a pig. I don't know why that fun fact just came to my mind. It's not even here. Pigs have eaten Philadelphia's garbage and sewage for more than 100 years, saving $3 million a year on landfill costs. This is a wise use of hogs. They are designed to clean our environment.

Even when stacked in cages, piglets thrive off of only the pig on the top cage receives the food. Farmers have increased their profits by feeding free raw sewage to pigs. Alright, I think I'll stop there. I'll spare you. I probably shouldn't have even read that one. Always read your notes before you come. Note to self. Well, and it goes on and on. There's a reason why animals chew their cut. Cows eat good. There's even reason for the cleft hoof. I don't know. Something about what were they saying, honey, in London this morning? I guess.

The clove and hoof have better protection from parasites and things that could absorb through their skin. And the animals that don't have the clove and hoof have a softer tissue under there that is susceptible to parasites and bacteria and things absorbing.

Yeah. I'm sure there's some great medical reasons for that.

From our booklet, it has the picture of the pig on it. The title escapes me at the moment. The specific purpose God gave for avoiding unclean meats is holiness. God wants us to be holy. Since we belong to Him and He purchased us with Christ's blood, He does not want us to contaminate ourselves through any kind of physical or spiritual defilement. In God's sight, refraining from eating unclean animals is an identifying sign of the holiness of those God has set apart through a relationship with Him. So it's physical and spiritual. We are not to defile ourselves.

All right. Well, I went through it, but there are certain scriptures. If you look at the Addendum, certain places in the New Testament where they say, you know what? It says right there that God did away with this. God speaks so adamantly and so precisely and so black and white. And then, of course, He changes His mind, they would say, in the New Testament. And it does take a little bit of knowing your Bible, a little bit of study for these things.

Romans 14, that's a big one. So you see on the first page of the Addendum, understanding unclean in Romans 14.

We can read through this together. Does Paul's statement in Romans 14, 14, I know I am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there's nothing unclean of itself, meaning that the early church made no distinction between clean and unclean means? The understanding of Greek terminology can help us here. It's important to realize that the New Testament writers refer to two concepts of unclean, using different Greek words to convey the two ideas. Unclean could refer to animals. God did not intend to be used as food, listed in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14. Unclean could also refer to ceremonial uncleanliness. In Romans 14, Paul uses the word koinos, which means common. In addition to the meaning of common in ordinary, as used in English, the word also applied to things considered polluted or defiled. This word, along with its verb form, koinō, is used in Mark 7, verses 2-23, where it obviously refers to ceremonial uncleanliness in the incident where the disciples ate without first having washed their hands. Through a concordance or similar Bible help, you can verify that koinos and koinō appear throughout the New Testament and refer to ceremonial uncleanness. Something could be common, ceremonial unclean, even though it was otherwise considered clean meat. An entirely different word, akathartos, is used in the New Testament for animals Scripture specifies as unclean. In the Septuagint, akathartos is used to designate the unclean meat listed in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14. It's important to know the difference in these two words. So both words, koinos and akathartos, are used in Acts 10 in describing Peter's vision. That's a big one that they use. The sheep filled with all four-footed animals on the earth, wild beasts creeping things and birds in the air, both clean and unclean. Peter himself distinguished between the two concepts of uncleanness by using both words in Acts 10-14. After a voice told Peter to kill and eat, he replied, I've never eaten anything unclean, common, koinos, or unclean, akathartos. Both Bible translations distinguish between the meanings of the two words used here. Peter used the same terminology in Acts 10-28 and Acts 11-8 in discussing his vision. When Paul said in Romans 14-14 that there is nothing unclean, koinos, or common, of itself, he was making the same point he had made earlier to the Corinthians. Just because meat was otherwise unlawful to eat may have been associated with idol worship does not mean it's intrinsically unfit for human consumption. As seen from the context, Paul wasn't discussing Biblical dietary restrictions at all. Paul goes on to state in Romans 14, verse 20, that all food is clean. The word translated clean is katharos, free from impure, admixture without blemish, spotless. Clean meats as such aren't addressed in the New Testament, so this isn't specifically a word to describe them. Katharos is used to describe all kinds of cleanliness, purity, including clean dishes, people, clothing, pure religion, gold, and glass. Recognize also that both in Romans 14 and 14, in Romans 1420, the word food or meat isn't the original wording. No specific object mentioned relative to cleanness or uncleanness. The sense these verses is merely this. Nothing is unclean, common, ceremonial defiled, of itself. All is clean, free from impure, admixture without blemish, and spotless. There were many controversies at the early church at that time with cleanliness and uncleanliness. Some of it was associated with ceremonial terms, clean and unclean, and not referring to the food laws prescribed. Really, Romans 14, if you look at the context, you can't associate that at all with the food laws as given to us in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14.

We'll read just one page here. Peter's vision, the next one, and then we'll look to wrap up. Peter's vision, did God cleanse all meats? One often misunderstood section of the Bible concerns Peter's vision in which he saw heaven open and an object like a great sheet at the four corners descended to him and let down to earth. In this sheet were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild bees, creeping things, birds of the air. Peter heard a voice tell him, rise Peter, kill and eat. Assuming the vision meant that he should eat unclean animals, Peter spontaneously responded, not so God, for I have never eaten anything common or unclean. The same vision came to Peter three times. At this point, many readers, without finishing the account, assumed that they know the meaning of this vision, that God told Peter that we're now free to eat any kind of animal flesh we desire. In context, however, these scriptures show that this is not at all what Peter understood. On the contrary, even after seeing the vision three times, he still wondered within himself what this vision which he had seen meant. He knew it just didn't mean all things were clean. That's not what he had been taught. Later, Peter realized the significance of the revelation. It was that God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Recognizing the real intent of the vision, Peter baptized the first Gentiles, non-Israelites, God called into the church who were not initially Jewish proselytes. This divine disclosure we see from reading this further in the account did not concern food at all. Rather, it concerned people. Because the Jewish religious leaders at the time of Christ had erroneously considered Gentiles to be unclean, this dramatic vision righted a common misconception that had come to affect Peter and other members of the church. It demonstrated that God was beginning to offer salvation to many members of any race. Gentiles whom God was calling were now welcomed into the church.

Don't let people pick these things and say, look, here in the New Testament, it's changed. I think that many people, you know, they'll hear a pastor or someone at a pulpit, you know, they'll read the first part and then they'll put forth the meaning and close the Bible. You know, and you've got to read further. All you have to do is read verse 28 of that one. That's an easy one to dispute. Just, if you ever hear Peter's vision, just say verse 28. Let's go read verse 28. There's more and we won't take the time. This is your homework. Again, I'll send out a test later. But there was a debate over ceremonial cleanings, cleansing, Mark 7. You can read that.

The collage and controversy clarified, let no one judge you in food or in drink regarding festival or new moon or Sabbath. That's a big one. I really recommend you read that one in your own time. They've used this passage in collagens to also say that the observance of the Holy Days is done away with as well.

But it's not. But, yeah. So we'll leave it at that. Does anybody have any final thoughts on the matter? See, we started at 3. The church starts at 3. So I kept you about 2 hours and 40 minutes. So go grab some grasshoppers. No, is it crickets? Is it grasshoppers, too? Grasshoppers are okay? Okay, grasshoppers or crickets? Change it up tonight if you'd like.

Locusts? Can we eat locusts? Oh, man. See, I eat about 2 things that are clean. Cow, beef and chicken. Some fish. So I don't have to worry about any of these things. Yeah, if you grew up in the church, you don't have these certain things. I know certain people that came into the church. Did anybody have trouble giving up a certain food when they came into the church? What? Pork! We have a pork on it. It's hard. Oh, and just a side note, this hit my heart today, and I'll confess, and then we'll go on this. You can write the home office after this.

I have pepperoni pizza. Okay? Pick it off, right? Everything's good? Eh. Eh. So you start reading these words, abominable, disgusting, and all these things. So what if that pepperoni instead of pork was what? Rat pepperoni? Would I pick it off and eat it? No, I wouldn't. So why don't I view... I need to view all things unclean, just as the Bible describes it. I don't want anything to do with it. And I know, once you have that resolve, something comes to resolve in your mind, you will be tested on it. There won't be any other food around. There will be a pepperoni pizza, and you'll be tempted to pick it off. Don't do it. God will provide food from somewhere. He always does. So be clean, be holy in your heart. Thank you, Lily. Spiritually, first, foremost, and everything falls in line. You'll just want to overflow with being holy and striving for that in all aspects of your life, even the food you eat. Yes?

Meatloaf? Yeah, really. Quite licky. Holy fork. We had a little fork. Well, there's all kinds of spiritual concepts, a little heaven, you know. It ruins the whole thing. I'm going to try to really work just viewing that as God views it. View things as God views things. It's always a safe thing to go on. Yes? Don? No?

The Jewish dilemma is pork at half price. Is that a joke? Is that like a... That's Howard's joke. See, he's rubbing off on you. See, you shall not be defiled. Don? I'll have to use that one, though. That's good. I still have to do this in Kingsport. Thank you for your comments and your participation. For those heading out tomorrow, we'll see you tomorrow. Otherwise, we will see you next Sabbath. At what time? Two o'clock. Okay. See you then.